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Japan is turning the nukes back on, France with the Eastern Europeans is taking on Germany's reckless move https://www.euronews.com/2021/10/11/led-by-france-10-

Japan is turning the nukes back on, France with the Eastern Europeans is taking on Germany's reckless move https://www.euronews.com/2021/10/11/led-by-france-10-eu-countries-call-on-brussels-to-label-nuclear-energy-as-green-source https://www.euronews.com/2021/10/11/led-by-france-10-eu-coun... . The current energy crunch is demonstrating how "renewables now, nukes of off now, batteries later" is irresponsible both environmentally and politically, I hope it's a turning point. At the vary least, turning off the nukes is a reward one earns after the transition is demonstrated end-to-end, with the grid storage and renewables both in place.

oezi 5y ago
Two counterpoints: - Isn't the current gas shortage just Putin trying to ram through Nordstream 2? - Isn't it great to have high prices fossil energy sources to drive renewable investment and stop wasteful use of fossils?
- Ericson2314 5y ago
  It is great the price has gone up. What's bad is people are buying it anyways. The price needs to be high, sure, but also too high, in that demand is scared off and consumption/revenue goes down. Sadly, the price is not too high at the moment by that definition. > Isn't the current gas shortage just Putin trying to ram through Nordstream 2? I have no idea. What I noticed is not even a gas shortage, but a wind shortage driving up demand for gas.
- masklinn 5y ago
  > Two counterpoints: > - Isn't the current gas shortage just Putin trying to ram through Nordstream 2? Is "fossil fuels are a geopolitical weakness" really a counterpoint to "fossil fuels are kinda shit"? And that geopolitical weakness is exactly why france built lots of nukes in the first place, it was not ecological (though that's a nice side-effect), it was for energy and geopolitical independence, and though it fails somewhat in that uranium ore still needs to be procured, it's much easier to stockpile uranium ore than fossil fuels, and the available sources are much more varied: the main known reserves are in Australia, Kazakhstan, Canada, Namibia, South Africa.
smotah 5y ago
Unsurprisingly Germany lobbied EU members such as Austria, Denmark, Luxembourg and Spain to block the inclusion of nuclear power in the "green taxonomy" (allowing it to be subsided like new renewables are), while pushing for natural gas (emitting 40 times more CO2 than nuclear). Such geopolitical move is definitely illogical and favoring climate change acceleration.

oezi 5y ago

Two counterpoints: - Isn't the current gas shortage just Putin trying to ram through Nordstream 2? - Isn't it great to have high prices fossil energy sources to drive renewable investment and stop wasteful use of fossils?

Ericson2314 5y ago
It is great the price has gone up. What's bad is people are buying it anyways. The price needs to be high, sure, but also too high, in that demand is scared off and consumption/revenue goes down. Sadly, the price is not too high at the moment by that definition. > Isn't the current gas shortage just Putin trying to ram through Nordstream 2? I have no idea. What I noticed is not even a gas shortage, but a wind shortage driving up demand for gas.
masklinn 5y ago
> Two counterpoints: > - Isn't the current gas shortage just Putin trying to ram through Nordstream 2? Is "fossil fuels are a geopolitical weakness" really a counterpoint to "fossil fuels are kinda shit"? And that geopolitical weakness is exactly why france built lots of nukes in the first place, it was not ecological (though that's a nice side-effect), it was for energy and geopolitical independence, and though it fails somewhat in that uranium ore still needs to be procured, it's much easier to stockpile uranium ore than fossil fuels, and the available sources are much more varied: the main known reserves are in Australia, Kazakhstan, Canada, Namibia, South Africa.

smotah 5y ago

Unsurprisingly Germany lobbied EU members such as Austria, Denmark, Luxembourg and Spain to block the inclusion of nuclear power in the "green taxonomy" (allowing it to be subsided like new renewables are), while pushing for natural gas (emitting 40 times more CO2 than nuclear). Such geopolitical move is definitely illogical and favoring climate change acceleration.