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> No, you just don’t want to get vaccinated. Everything else is window dressing around that. And I have no rational reason to, except artificial reasons create

> No, you just don’t want to get vaccinated. Everything else is window dressing around that. And I have no rational reason to, except artificial reasons created by most of governments. > The virus will mutate and continue to do so. Eventually your immunity will weaken - will you get the vaccine then? My immune system seems doing great job defending me from all the mutations which already took place. So I don't want to interfere, teaching it how to do the job it seems doing so great and targeting it against specific mutations the vaccine is supposed to help with. I trust my immune system more than I trust whatever the vaccine does. I'm afraid the latter may actually weaken my immunity against the mutations to come. This, together with being pushed to vaccinate, are why I don't want to. I never ever resisted any vaccine before and was always willing to get vaccinated against everything. > You have no scientific or educated reasoning here and you’re just letting your ego get in the way of things. It’s ok. I do that too. I always reasoned the naturally acquired immunity is better than that given by the vaccine and AFAIK this has been scientifically proven already. > But the quicker you realize you’re caught up in FUD mostly planted by morons and Russian and Chinese state-sponsored democracy dividers But I've never been interested in what do they say. Only in what humble amount of science I know + my own experience + logical reasoning/speculation. Plus the natural instinct to resist whenever pushed.

IggleSniggle 5y ago
> I trust my immune system more than I trust whatever the vaccine does Uhh…this is what a vaccine does. It shows your immune system what a disease looks like, lets it do it’s thing to discover a solution…so that it has a hashmap to a solution ready to go rather than than needing to iterate over the entire database and apply iterative mutations to the best solutions in order to find a successful match. What in the world do you think a vaccine is? It’s letting your immune system do it’s thing. It’s trusting your immune system to know what to do! What in the world do you think a vaccine is? Vaccine-based immunity is natural immunity.
- qwerty456127 5y ago
  > It shows your immune system what a disease looks like But it knows! Why should I now train it on a picture if there are live viruses of all the mutations all over around which I have already encountered countless times and keep encountering every day? I would certainly vaccinate if I were going to an infected place from a place where there is no such virus. Or if the disease was widespread somewhere else and coming to my place while there already was a vaccine. But I have been living emerged deep in the infection intensively for over 2 years already! I have never even decreased (even increased actually, meeting many new people every day, and nobody wears masks in business) my social interactions, just tested regularly and wore a mask in public transport. I even drank from the same cup with an sick and positive girl once, then self-isolated for some days, tested regularly (incl. in-lab PCR) - all negative, no sickness. And even lab tests objectively show I have been maintaining high level of antibodies for already a year (which suggests they are renewing given regular contact). How can we possibly suspect my immune system still has not enough clue and an instruction can be better than what it already knows? > apply iterative mutations to the best solutions in order to find a successful match. But I apparently applied very successful matches to every mutation! > What in the world do you think a vaccine is? Vaccine-based immunity is natural immunity. To something specific, more precisely - a specific model (not even a real object) isn't it?
  - ericmay 5y ago
    > But it knows! Why should I now train it on a picture if there are live viruses of all the mutations all over around which I have already encountered countless times and keep encountering every day? Ok so when are you going to get a booster shot or your first COVID shot? Or are you planning on getting the disease again and letting it run its course? Any why would you treat this vaccine any different than the flu vaccine or w/e? It makes absolutely no sense. If you don't understand the science, how are you making informed decisions? > nobody wears masks in business False? Who cares? I'm in business and wear a mask all the time when meeting with clients if we even meet on-site. > which suggests they are renewing given regular contact Which also suggests you are getting the virus again and giving it to people you interact with who may now be getting COVID-19 for the first time. You're literally perpetuating the disease! But hey screw everybody else right? Those who might not be able to get the vaccine, like, oh idk, my nephew? Or maybe kids who BTW aren't immune from getting sick. Your mentality around this is selfish and bizarre. > How can we possibly suspect my immune system still has not enough clue and an instruction can be better than what it already knows? The person you are replying to was discussing your complete misunderstanding of how vaccines work. Not commenting on naturally acquired immunity, which BTW doesn't mean you're 100% immune because that's now how things work.
brewdad 5y ago
> Plus the natural instinct to resist whenever pushed. And there it is..you are still an adolescent who never fully matured emotionally. Glad we could get to the root of it.
- qwerty456127 5y ago
  This saved me from loosing money and possibly from getting into trouble so many times already.

IggleSniggle 5y ago

> I trust my immune system more than I trust whatever the vaccine does Uhh…this is what a vaccine does. It shows your immune system what a disease looks like, lets it do it’s thing to discover a solution…so that it has a hashmap to a solution ready to go rather than than needing to iterate over the entire database and apply iterative mutations to the best solutions in order to find a successful match. What in the world do you think a vaccine is? It’s letting your immune system do it’s thing. It’s trusting your immune system to know what to do! What in the world do you think a vaccine is? Vaccine-based immunity is natural immunity.

qwerty456127 5y ago
> It shows your immune system what a disease looks like But it knows! Why should I now train it on a picture if there are live viruses of all the mutations all over around which I have already encountered countless times and keep encountering every day? I would certainly vaccinate if I were going to an infected place from a place where there is no such virus. Or if the disease was widespread somewhere else and coming to my place while there already was a vaccine. But I have been living emerged deep in the infection intensively for over 2 years already! I have never even decreased (even increased actually, meeting many new people every day, and nobody wears masks in business) my social interactions, just tested regularly and wore a mask in public transport. I even drank from the same cup with an sick and positive girl once, then self-isolated for some days, tested regularly (incl. in-lab PCR) - all negative, no sickness. And even lab tests objectively show I have been maintaining high level of antibodies for already a year (which suggests they are renewing given regular contact). How can we possibly suspect my immune system still has not enough clue and an instruction can be better than what it already knows? > apply iterative mutations to the best solutions in order to find a successful match. But I apparently applied very successful matches to every mutation! > What in the world do you think a vaccine is? Vaccine-based immunity is natural immunity. To something specific, more precisely - a specific model (not even a real object) isn't it?
- ericmay 5y ago
  > But it knows! Why should I now train it on a picture if there are live viruses of all the mutations all over around which I have already encountered countless times and keep encountering every day? Ok so when are you going to get a booster shot or your first COVID shot? Or are you planning on getting the disease again and letting it run its course? Any why would you treat this vaccine any different than the flu vaccine or w/e? It makes absolutely no sense. If you don't understand the science, how are you making informed decisions? > nobody wears masks in business False? Who cares? I'm in business and wear a mask all the time when meeting with clients if we even meet on-site. > which suggests they are renewing given regular contact Which also suggests you are getting the virus again and giving it to people you interact with who may now be getting COVID-19 for the first time. You're literally perpetuating the disease! But hey screw everybody else right? Those who might not be able to get the vaccine, like, oh idk, my nephew? Or maybe kids who BTW aren't immune from getting sick. Your mentality around this is selfish and bizarre. > How can we possibly suspect my immune system still has not enough clue and an instruction can be better than what it already knows? The person you are replying to was discussing your complete misunderstanding of how vaccines work. Not commenting on naturally acquired immunity, which BTW doesn't mean you're 100% immune because that's now how things work.

brewdad 5y ago

> Plus the natural instinct to resist whenever pushed. And there it is..you are still an adolescent who never fully matured emotionally. Glad we could get to the root of it.

qwerty456127 5y ago
This saved me from loosing money and possibly from getting into trouble so many times already.