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>remains white men, nobody that doesn't fit that category will feel like they have a chance. Ah yeah...let's test your borderline racist expression: -David Ja

by nix23 5y ago

>remains white men, nobody that doesn't fit that category will feel like they have a chance. Ah yeah...let's test your borderline racist expression: -David Jay -> US -Ardem Patapoutian -> Libanon -Syukuro Manabe -> Japan -Klaus Hasselmann -> Germany -Giorgio Parisi -> Italy -Abdulrazak Gurnah -> Zanzibar -Maria Ressa -> Philippines -Dmitry Muratov -> Russia And so on....i don't see the "only white men can win the price" here.

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sgt 5y ago
Short analysis; 3 out of those 8 are non-white (note: Lebanese are white). One is however Japanese, who are maybe not in any context considered discriminated against, rather they are revered. So you're left with Abdulrazak Gurnah and Maria Ressa as "ethnic minorities" for which AA sometimes makes sense. Still, 2 out of 8 is actually pretty good. It shows that you don't have to force this issue. IMHO 25% is solid. A bigger concern is maybe that there are so few women.
- lbreakjai 5y ago
  "(note: Lebanese are white)." Based on what? Is there an official colour palette you know about? Or is it based on their skull measurements? It's quite amazing how fast we're walking back to all the racist theories for the 18th and 19th century ... but somehow this time for Good? This american obsession about race would be less insufferable if it at least didn't seem crafted by a four years old. There's white, black, brown, and yellow. People from a colour are all the same. Somehow that's the basis to explain everything. I mean, at least the horoscope has twelve signs, that's three times as much nuance ...
  - nix23 5y ago
    Thank you very much for that comment, it's exactly what i try to express, the focus on skin-color is as racist as it can get.
- dagw 5y ago
  Abdulrazak Gurnah and Maria Ressa Neither of whom won science or economics prizes, which is what is being discussed in the article.
  - nix23 5y ago
    Do we just forget Syukuro Manabe (physics)? Or has he just not the right hue to count as diverse? Or Ardem Patapoutian (also physics) not black enough for being a north African? With your logic there is no Asian who won the Literature price...whats even the point here?
    - dagw 5y ago
      I think you're replying to the wrong person. My argument is that holding up the fact that a black person and a woman won the 'not-science' prizes cannot be used as proof of diversity among the science prizes.
      - nix23 5y ago
        And my argument is that a Japanese and an African won the "science" prices, are they not diverse enough because of skin-color?
        dagw 5y ago
        Are they not diverse enough because of skin-color? Again, that was the argument the person I was replying to was making, not in any way the argument I was making.

by nix23 5y ago

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sgt 5y ago

Short analysis; 3 out of those 8 are non-white (note: Lebanese are white). One is however Japanese, who are maybe not in any context considered discriminated against, rather they are revered. So you're left with Abdulrazak Gurnah and Maria Ressa as "ethnic minorities" for which AA sometimes makes sense. Still, 2 out of 8 is actually pretty good. It shows that you don't have to force this issue. IMHO 25% is solid. A bigger concern is maybe that there are so few women.

lbreakjai 5y ago
"(note: Lebanese are white)." Based on what? Is there an official colour palette you know about? Or is it based on their skull measurements? It's quite amazing how fast we're walking back to all the racist theories for the 18th and 19th century ... but somehow this time for Good? This american obsession about race would be less insufferable if it at least didn't seem crafted by a four years old. There's white, black, brown, and yellow. People from a colour are all the same. Somehow that's the basis to explain everything. I mean, at least the horoscope has twelve signs, that's three times as much nuance ...
- nix23 5y ago
  Thank you very much for that comment, it's exactly what i try to express, the focus on skin-color is as racist as it can get.
dagw 5y ago
Abdulrazak Gurnah and Maria Ressa Neither of whom won science or economics prizes, which is what is being discussed in the article.
- nix23 5y ago
  Do we just forget Syukuro Manabe (physics)? Or has he just not the right hue to count as diverse? Or Ardem Patapoutian (also physics) not black enough for being a north African? With your logic there is no Asian who won the Literature price...whats even the point here?
  - dagw 5y ago
    I think you're replying to the wrong person. My argument is that holding up the fact that a black person and a woman won the 'not-science' prizes cannot be used as proof of diversity among the science prizes.
    - nix23 5y ago
      And my argument is that a Japanese and an African won the "science" prices, are they not diverse enough because of skin-color?
      - dagw 5y ago
        Are they not diverse enough because of skin-color? Again, that was the argument the person I was replying to was making, not in any way the argument I was making.