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We can take Hamburg for example #1. Beautiful city, working public transportation, BUT there are congestions, and try getting anywhere from other end of the tow

We can take Hamburg for example #1. Beautiful city, working public transportation, BUT there are congestions, and try getting anywhere from other end of the town early morning (rush hour) or late at night. Sometimes almost impossible. #2 I live in Zagreb, Croatia - recently drove from Austria back through Slovenia to Zagreb, ended up spending more time in Zagreb traffic at 11:30 am then driving across three countries.

Lev1a 5y ago
> Hamburg for example Even in another much smaller German city of only ~50k inhabitants, my school commute for years was ~40-50 minutes (dependent on season etc.; EDIT: 40-50 minutes per direction, also on mondays and another weekday my schooldays started at 07:05 not at 08:00) when the trip by bicycle to the same school would only take me ~20-25 minutes. Add to that the rapid aging of the population combined with the old people having the absolutely stellar idea to go by bus during the 07:15 morning school rush. Not like they have the whole day free to schedule their appointments... oh, wait And after years of having to deal with these fossils (most with that creepy perpetual half-smile-half-smirk) who think they're entitled to demand that people of all pre-pension ages (sometimes even heavily pregnant women) vacate their seats for them instead of literally just walking one or two steps further to the next seat, thereby not only clogging up the bus corridor while everyone has to shuffle around but also being a general nuisance I've got enough and for years haved avoided riding busses in this city like the plague. I've seen public transport done differently and better in other cities, one key feature for working better AFAICT being tram lines with low intervals, not like in the above example relatively short busses every ~15-20 minutes per line.
- barrenko 5y ago
  Why you got downvoted is the same reason EU doesn't have startups.
LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
Hm. I agree to #1 mostly, but it could be better. More light rail like Hochbahn & S-Bahn would be good. OTOH they extended the Metrobus and Expressbus like mad, at least it felt so after my initial disappointment from around 2004. Most bus stops have an electronic timetable, dynamically updating their 4 rows. The busses are prioritized on traffic lights and partially have their own reserved lanes. For when- and whereever I need to go I simply don't care when exactly, because a few minutes later the next one is coming, which applies the same way for sometimes necessary switches. 30mins max from outlying suburb to core, rather 20mins, maybe 50 to 60min from my edge to another edge of town, not necessarily through the core. Only at night the intervals are getting longer, and the net is less 'dense', but not catastrophically so. And it is fu****g expensive for single tickets :-( When was the last time you used the HVV? Besides that usually I want to ride my bicycle, bicycle, bicycle... ;) edit: Try this? [·] https://geofox.hvv.de/jsf/home.seam?clear=true&language=en https://geofox.hvv.de/jsf/home.seam?clear=true&language=en
- barrenko 5y ago
  May 2020. Yup, inner centre is pretty great for a bike.
  - LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
    He, actually I prefer the outer suburbs for bicycling because downtown is insane. In the suburbs I can tone the paranoia that everyone is out there to kill me at least down a little :)
    - barrenko 5y ago
      Well, the suburbs too for sure. I probably meant outer centre, for the thrill of the ride as you mention :).

Lev1a 5y ago

> Hamburg for example Even in another much smaller German city of only ~50k inhabitants, my school commute for years was ~40-50 minutes (dependent on season etc.; EDIT: 40-50 minutes per direction, also on mondays and another weekday my schooldays started at 07:05 not at 08:00) when the trip by bicycle to the same school would only take me ~20-25 minutes. Add to that the rapid aging of the population combined with the old people having the absolutely stellar idea to go by bus during the 07:15 morning school rush. Not like they have the whole day free to schedule their appointments... oh, wait And after years of having to deal with these fossils (most with that creepy perpetual half-smile-half-smirk) who think they're entitled to demand that people of all pre-pension ages (sometimes even heavily pregnant women) vacate their seats for them instead of literally just walking one or two steps further to the next seat, thereby not only clogging up the bus corridor while everyone has to shuffle around but also being a general nuisance I've got enough and for years haved avoided riding busses in this city like the plague. I've seen public transport done differently and better in other cities, one key feature for working better AFAICT being tram lines with low intervals, not like in the above example relatively short busses every ~15-20 minutes per line.

barrenko 5y ago
Why you got downvoted is the same reason EU doesn't have startups.

LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago

Hm. I agree to #1 mostly, but it could be better. More light rail like Hochbahn & S-Bahn would be good. OTOH they extended the Metrobus and Expressbus like mad, at least it felt so after my initial disappointment from around 2004. Most bus stops have an electronic timetable, dynamically updating their 4 rows. The busses are prioritized on traffic lights and partially have their own reserved lanes. For when- and whereever I need to go I simply don't care when exactly, because a few minutes later the next one is coming, which applies the same way for sometimes necessary switches. 30mins max from outlying suburb to core, rather 20mins, maybe 50 to 60min from my edge to another edge of town, not necessarily through the core. Only at night the intervals are getting longer, and the net is less 'dense', but not catastrophically so. And it is fu****g expensive for single tickets :-( When was the last time you used the HVV? Besides that usually I want to ride my bicycle, bicycle, bicycle... ;) edit: Try this? [·] https://geofox.hvv.de/jsf/home.seam?clear=true&language=en https://geofox.hvv.de/jsf/home.seam?clear=true&language=en

barrenko 5y ago
May 2020. Yup, inner centre is pretty great for a bike.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
  He, actually I prefer the outer suburbs for bicycling because downtown is insane. In the suburbs I can tone the paranoia that everyone is out there to kill me at least down a little :)
  - barrenko 5y ago
    Well, the suburbs too for sure. I probably meant outer centre, for the thrill of the ride as you mention :).