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Texas governor bans all Covid-19 vaccine mandates, including by private business

32 points by dukeofdoom 5y ago

richardatlarge 5y ago
All politics aside, I heard a radio report on Texas a few weeks ago and at first I thought the topic was the Taliban Edit: same said by Jesse Jackson https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2021/9/3/22656493/the-texas-taliban-wing-of-the-republican-party https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2021/9/3/22656493/th...
thebigman433 5y ago
There is nothing "small" about government actions like this. Montana is taking/has taken similar steps and I do not like it at all. The worst is when they take actions that they know wont hold up long term, to cause frustration/delays in the short term. Current good example here in MT is passing a bill to allow guns on college campuses, when the state constitution pretty clearly puts the power for that in the hands of the Board of Regents. Edit: just to be clear, I dont think government should be "small", Im just saying its clearly not that, despite what many voters claim they are voting for
- kaczordon 5y ago
  There's a certain irony in seeing people who cheered vaccine mandates forced on people by the government now getting upset about the government banning mandates.
  - badRNG 5y ago
    I don't see the irony. If you're pro-mandate, you'll support mandates and oppose bans on mandates. It seems perfectly consistent to me.
jkubicek 5y ago
Moves like this just make no sense to me. Assuming the governor isn't an anti-vax conspiracy theorist or a "covid is fake" denialist, what possible reason could there be for preventing private businesses from mandating vaccination? Even if you don't believe the state should enact mandates, these are private businesses. If you want to support your state business, what better way to help than by getting everyone healthy, working and comfortable going out again?
- xboxnolifes 5y ago
  > what possible reason could there be for preventing private businesses from mandating vaccination Medical privacy.
- richardatlarge 5y ago
  Yes, seems to be counter to the ideology of keeping government out of the private sector
- rytcio 5y ago
  Nothing will be enough to make people comfortable again. A year of shut down economy and non-stop 24/7 fear porn in MSM have traumatized people for at least a decade
  - pupppet 5y ago
    How is it fear porn when literally hundreds of thousands of Americans have died from it.
    - qwerty456127 5y ago
      Because no matter how many die, we should not fear, only reason. Fear is the mind killer. Fear leads to the dark side of the force.
    - dukeofdoom 5y ago
      Most people that don't watch TV don't believe those numbers. The reason is that the overall yearly death rate is within regular variability.
    - angelzen 5y ago
      Perhaps it's something related to aging. After a certain point in life you make peace with the idea that sooner or later everybody dies. To put covid in perspective, we can calculate the relative risk of covid death compared to risk of death from all other causes, by age group. The relative risk is under 15% for adults and under 3% for children. While this is nothing to sneeze at, it is not as apocalyptic as the click-hungry (social) media makes it to be. Yet another looming health risk, among high blood pressure, cholesterol, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer, etc. raw data: https://data.cdc.gov/resource/3apk-4u4f.csv https://data.cdc.gov/resource/3apk-4u4f.csv
hvac 5y ago
So flu vaccine mandates are still allowed?
senectus1 5y ago
So the Texas Gov is now in favor of Big Government and Government overreach? Honestly this just seems like he's pandering to OAN/FB rage groups and being contry because that's what's cool amongst the "going nuclear" political style of the far right now.

32 points by dukeofdoom 5y ago

All politics aside, I heard a radio report on Texas a few weeks ago and at first I thought the topic was the Taliban Edit: same said by Jesse Jackson https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2021/9/3/22656493/the-texas-taliban-wing-of-the-republican-party https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2021/9/3/22656493/th...

thebigman433 5y ago

There is nothing "small" about government actions like this. Montana is taking/has taken similar steps and I do not like it at all. The worst is when they take actions that they know wont hold up long term, to cause frustration/delays in the short term. Current good example here in MT is passing a bill to allow guns on college campuses, when the state constitution pretty clearly puts the power for that in the hands of the Board of Regents. Edit: just to be clear, I dont think government should be "small", Im just saying its clearly not that, despite what many voters claim they are voting for

kaczordon 5y ago
There's a certain irony in seeing people who cheered vaccine mandates forced on people by the government now getting upset about the government banning mandates.
- badRNG 5y ago
  I don't see the irony. If you're pro-mandate, you'll support mandates and oppose bans on mandates. It seems perfectly consistent to me.

jkubicek 5y ago

Moves like this just make no sense to me. Assuming the governor isn't an anti-vax conspiracy theorist or a "covid is fake" denialist, what possible reason could there be for preventing private businesses from mandating vaccination? Even if you don't believe the state should enact mandates, these are private businesses. If you want to support your state business, what better way to help than by getting everyone healthy, working and comfortable going out again?

xboxnolifes 5y ago
> what possible reason could there be for preventing private businesses from mandating vaccination Medical privacy.
richardatlarge 5y ago
Yes, seems to be counter to the ideology of keeping government out of the private sector
rytcio 5y ago
Nothing will be enough to make people comfortable again. A year of shut down economy and non-stop 24/7 fear porn in MSM have traumatized people for at least a decade
- pupppet 5y ago
  How is it fear porn when literally hundreds of thousands of Americans have died from it.
  - qwerty456127 5y ago
    Because no matter how many die, we should not fear, only reason. Fear is the mind killer. Fear leads to the dark side of the force.
  - dukeofdoom 5y ago
    Most people that don't watch TV don't believe those numbers. The reason is that the overall yearly death rate is within regular variability.
  - angelzen 5y ago
    Perhaps it's something related to aging. After a certain point in life you make peace with the idea that sooner or later everybody dies. To put covid in perspective, we can calculate the relative risk of covid death compared to risk of death from all other causes, by age group. The relative risk is under 15% for adults and under 3% for children. While this is nothing to sneeze at, it is not as apocalyptic as the click-hungry (social) media makes it to be. Yet another looming health risk, among high blood pressure, cholesterol, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer, etc. raw data: https://data.cdc.gov/resource/3apk-4u4f.csv https://data.cdc.gov/resource/3apk-4u4f.csv

hvac 5y ago

So flu vaccine mandates are still allowed?

senectus1 5y ago

So the Texas Gov is now in favor of Big Government and Government overreach? Honestly this just seems like he's pandering to OAN/FB rage groups and being contry because that's what's cool amongst the "going nuclear" political style of the far right now.