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> shooting people who leave their homes with rubber bullets, Talk about misrepresenting facts to mislead. People who were rioting were met with force. These

> shooting people who leave their homes with rubber bullets, Talk about misrepresenting facts to mislead. People who were rioting were met with force. These protesters weren't being peaceful, they were attacking camera crews and reporters. They were assaulting police officers. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/21/victoria-covid-update-rubber-bullets-fired-on-second-day-of-construction-protests-which-block-freeway https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/21/victo... > it's normal to be required to take surveillance photos of themselves in their own residences It's not. If you're talking about the quarantine system that's under trial, yeah, I'm not particularly keen on that either. It's optional. You can choose to stay in hotel quarantine instead.

iammisc 5y ago
You know as much as I hated the rowdy George Floyd protestors in my city of Portland, I'm glad my government faces responsibility instead of blind acceptance by its constituents
calvinmorrison 5y ago
That's because 'protesting' is illegal lmao.
- nhinck 5y ago
  Protesting is not illegal
  - postingawayonhn 5y ago
    Yes it is. In Victoria there are only 4 reasons to leave your home and gatherings are heavily restricted.
    - nhinck 5y ago
      So you can leave your house and meet up with 9 other people and protest for up to four hours? Please point out where protesting is illegal.
      - postingawayonhn 5y ago
        I just checked and it's now 6 reasons rather than 4 but the point stands. These are the reasons to leave home: * Shopping for necessary goods and services * Caregiving or medical care * Authorised work or education * Exercise (limit of 4 hours a day) * Social interaction (included in the same 4 hour limit above) * To get a vaccination As you will see protest is not a permitted reason to leave home. Even if a protest of 10 people was permitted that's not a serious argument. Basically all protests aim for strength in numbers.
- paranoidrobot 5y ago
  Violence is always a choice. Choose that, and suffer the consequences.
  - postingawayonhn 5y ago
    The problem is that when you make protests illegal and meet them with riot police only the most hardened/radical protesters will turn up. Of course there will end up being a little bit of violence. And to address the wider point of violence in protests is it not sometimes necessary? If you believe your government has become tyrannical and they are willing to use force against you then what other option do you have?
    - paranoidrobot 5y ago
      > The problem is that when you make protests illegal and meet them with riot police You've got that arse-about. They were met with regular uniformed police, like in the BLM protests that happened multiple times in the last 12-18 months. The BLM protesters managed to remain peaceful, didn't assault reporters, bystanders, or police, and didn't damage property. They protested, and then dispersed on their own. All while protests were illegal.
      - CountDrewku 5y ago
        >The BLM protesters managed to remain peaceful, didn't assault reporters, bystanders, or police, and didn't damage property. They protested, and then dispersed on their own. Ummm no that's just false. You can easily search the amount of damage caused by those "protests". There were billions of dollars in property damage. https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a4... https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/black-lives-matter-protesters-riot-in-manhattan-cause-100000-damage/ https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/black-lives-matter-protesters-... https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/riots-following-george-floyds-death-could-cost-up-to-2b/ https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/riots-following-george-floyds-...
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iammisc 5y ago

You know as much as I hated the rowdy George Floyd protestors in my city of Portland, I'm glad my government faces responsibility instead of blind acceptance by its constituents

calvinmorrison 5y ago

That's because 'protesting' is illegal lmao.

nhinck 5y ago
Protesting is not illegal
- postingawayonhn 5y ago
  Yes it is. In Victoria there are only 4 reasons to leave your home and gatherings are heavily restricted.
  - nhinck 5y ago
    So you can leave your house and meet up with 9 other people and protest for up to four hours? Please point out where protesting is illegal.
    - postingawayonhn 5y ago
      I just checked and it's now 6 reasons rather than 4 but the point stands. These are the reasons to leave home: * Shopping for necessary goods and services * Caregiving or medical care * Authorised work or education * Exercise (limit of 4 hours a day) * Social interaction (included in the same 4 hour limit above) * To get a vaccination As you will see protest is not a permitted reason to leave home. Even if a protest of 10 people was permitted that's not a serious argument. Basically all protests aim for strength in numbers.
paranoidrobot 5y ago
Violence is always a choice. Choose that, and suffer the consequences.
- postingawayonhn 5y ago
  The problem is that when you make protests illegal and meet them with riot police only the most hardened/radical protesters will turn up. Of course there will end up being a little bit of violence. And to address the wider point of violence in protests is it not sometimes necessary? If you believe your government has become tyrannical and they are willing to use force against you then what other option do you have?
  - paranoidrobot 5y ago
    > The problem is that when you make protests illegal and meet them with riot police You've got that arse-about. They were met with regular uniformed police, like in the BLM protests that happened multiple times in the last 12-18 months. The BLM protesters managed to remain peaceful, didn't assault reporters, bystanders, or police, and didn't damage property. They protested, and then dispersed on their own. All while protests were illegal.
    - CountDrewku 5y ago
      >The BLM protesters managed to remain peaceful, didn't assault reporters, bystanders, or police, and didn't damage property. They protested, and then dispersed on their own. Ummm no that's just false. You can easily search the amount of damage caused by those "protests". There were billions of dollars in property damage. https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a4... https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/black-lives-matter-protesters-riot-in-manhattan-cause-100000-damage/ https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/black-lives-matter-protesters-... https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/riots-following-george-floyds-death-could-cost-up-to-2b/ https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/riots-following-george-floyds-...
      - 5y ago