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And remember, there's no way to use Windows 11 home without having a MS account. I'm sure this will end well.

by Shared404 5y ago

matheusmoreira 5y ago
Hopefully it will end with more people switching to Linux.
- deleted 5y ago
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- userbinator 5y ago
  In reality, it will probably just end up with more people staying on Windows 10.
  - C19is20 5y ago
    Back to 7.
  - rnotaro 5y ago
    In reality, the non-tech population don't really care about that issue.
    - mywittyname 5y ago
      Yeah they do. We just don't hear their complaints about not wanting to create a fucking Microsoft account because they just cave and make the account. Few people want a microsoft account, which is why they force you to get one. Apple gets this right. You can have a local account on your machine separate from your iCloud account.
  - gruez 5y ago
    Unless desktop linux makes huge strides that'll most likely be the case. The current LTSC is good until 2029, and it's rumored that the next LTSC won't be based on windows 11 but will be supported until 2031. Hopefully that's enough time for microsoft to get their shit together, or at least for linux desktop to make inroads.
- waste_monk 5y ago
  The only reason I continue to run Windows as my desktop is for gaming, but it is reaching the point where I'm considering making Linux my primary and using a VM with GPU passthrough for any gaming I might want to do (and maybe passing through a hardware TPM as well - I understand Win11 doesn't require it for VMs, but to prevent anti-cheat from kicking in I'd want to impersonate real hardware as closely as possible).
  - jay_kyburz 5y ago
    Perhaps you haven't been following the Steam Deck, Proton and Linux Anticheat but there has been some progress. Somebody posted this to reddit the other day. https://areweanticheatyet.com/ https://areweanticheatyet.com/ Battle Eye and Easy Anti Cheat are both working, but the developers need to update.
    - wildrhythms 5y ago
      There's also ProtonDB cataloguing the playability of games thru the Proton compatibility layer (built into Steam on Linux). https://www.protondb.com/ https://www.protondb.com/
    - matheusmoreira 5y ago
      >Battle Eye and Easy Anti Cheat are both working Do they require kernel modules?
  - Sebb767 5y ago
    I've been running GPU passthrough setups for years now. It's takes a bit longer when buying hardware and on first-time setup, but is working flawlessly since. I can't imagine going back to not having separate VMs for untrusted software (like mods) or snapshots. I'd highly recommend the switch.
    - jle17 5y ago
      As someone considering this setup, does this have any performance cost at all, even small ? Or is it totally identical, framerate and otherwise, to native ?
- shp0ngle 5y ago
  year of linux desktop
Arn_Thor 5y ago
Whelp! That's a hard pass

And remember, there's no way to use Windows 11 home without having a MS account. I'm sure this will end well.

matheusmoreira 5y ago

Hopefully it will end with more people switching to Linux.

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userbinator 5y ago
In reality, it will probably just end up with more people staying on Windows 10.
- C19is20 5y ago
  Back to 7.
- rnotaro 5y ago
  In reality, the non-tech population don't really care about that issue.
  - mywittyname 5y ago
    Yeah they do. We just don't hear their complaints about not wanting to create a fucking Microsoft account because they just cave and make the account. Few people want a microsoft account, which is why they force you to get one. Apple gets this right. You can have a local account on your machine separate from your iCloud account.
- gruez 5y ago
  Unless desktop linux makes huge strides that'll most likely be the case. The current LTSC is good until 2029, and it's rumored that the next LTSC won't be based on windows 11 but will be supported until 2031. Hopefully that's enough time for microsoft to get their shit together, or at least for linux desktop to make inroads.
waste_monk 5y ago
The only reason I continue to run Windows as my desktop is for gaming, but it is reaching the point where I'm considering making Linux my primary and using a VM with GPU passthrough for any gaming I might want to do (and maybe passing through a hardware TPM as well - I understand Win11 doesn't require it for VMs, but to prevent anti-cheat from kicking in I'd want to impersonate real hardware as closely as possible).
- jay_kyburz 5y ago
  Perhaps you haven't been following the Steam Deck, Proton and Linux Anticheat but there has been some progress. Somebody posted this to reddit the other day. https://areweanticheatyet.com/ https://areweanticheatyet.com/ Battle Eye and Easy Anti Cheat are both working, but the developers need to update.
  - wildrhythms 5y ago
    There's also ProtonDB cataloguing the playability of games thru the Proton compatibility layer (built into Steam on Linux). https://www.protondb.com/ https://www.protondb.com/
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    >Battle Eye and Easy Anti Cheat are both working Do they require kernel modules?
- Sebb767 5y ago
  I've been running GPU passthrough setups for years now. It's takes a bit longer when buying hardware and on first-time setup, but is working flawlessly since. I can't imagine going back to not having separate VMs for untrusted software (like mods) or snapshots. I'd highly recommend the switch.
  - jle17 5y ago
    As someone considering this setup, does this have any performance cost at all, even small ? Or is it totally identical, framerate and otherwise, to native ?
shp0ngle 5y ago
year of linux desktop

Arn_Thor 5y ago

Whelp! That's a hard pass