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Skimming through the article, they compare a few ROMs from significant phone manufacturers, LineageOS with Google Play, /e/, and Stock Android. It seems that L

by kop316 5y ago

Skimming through the article, they compare a few ROMs from significant phone manufacturers, LineageOS with Google Play, /e/, and Stock Android. It seems that LineageOS has GApps installed and /e/ does not (presumably since they use MicroG?), so it is looking like for LineageOS, it's really Google Play leaking this data.

jeroenhd 5y ago
> It seems that LineageOS has GApps installed It doesn't come with GApps installed, you need to flash those packages manually. That said, LOS also comes without an app store whereas /e/ has a custom F-Droid-compatible store pre-installed. Combining LineageOS and MicroG is kind of hard (relatively), because LineageOS enforces signature validation, which MicroG needs disabled to properly fake the proper Google APIs. There are non-enforcing builds and build instructions available, but that's not the default. /e/ seems to have the necessary patches enabled by default, which makes using popular apps without flashing GApps a lot easier.
- Guest42 5y ago
  Can you recommend a couple phones that are compatible with LOS + microg? I looked on their sites and it wasn't quite clear
  - dron57 5y ago
    I've been using the Pixel 4a 5G for about 6 months with MicroG and Lineage. Works really well. Other than Whatsapp and Google Maps I don't miss anything, but those apps have alternatives too.
    - Guest42 5y ago
      Fantastic!!!!
  - commoner 5y ago
    LineageOS for microG supports all phones that LineageOS does. Here's a spreadsheet of the full list along with the specs of each device: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bx6RvTCEGn5zA06lW_uZGZ_dq6qQyCZC_NifmyeC1lM/htmlview https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bx6RvTCEGn5zA06lW_uZ... If you want a more specific recommendation, could you provide your budget and your requirements?
    - Guest42 5y ago
      No budget restrictions although I’d like the ability for Bluetooth to run in the background and not go to sleep , and ideally ip67 or ip68 water protection.
      - commoner 5y ago
        All of the LineageOS phones I've ever used have been able to maintain a Bluetooth connection in the background. If you're fine with a used phone, the OnePlus 8 has a high-end Snapdragon 865 processor and 8 GB RAM.[1] The carrier models have IP68, and unlocked models are manufactured similarly but don't have an official IP rating.[2] If you're getting the T-Mobile carrier model (which may be carrier unlocked at sale), you'll need to request a code and wait a week to unlock the bootloader before you can flash LineageOS.[3] Used models go for $200-300 on eBay depending on condition, and a new factory unlocked model is $399. If you're looking for a new phone, you may want to consider the Pixel 5a which manages to have both IP67 and a headphone jack for $449 new, but uses a mid-level Snapdragon 765G processor paired with 6 GB RAM.[4] The OnePlus 9 Pro is also available with a high-end Snapdragon 888 processor, 12 GB RAM, and IP68 for $969 new or about $600-800 used.[5] [1] https://www.oneplus.com/8 https://www.oneplus.com/8 [2] https://9to5google.com/2020/04/14/oneplus-8-ip68-water-resistance-carriers/ https://9to5google.com/2020/04/14/oneplus-8-ip68-water-resis... [3] https://www.oneplus.com/support/answer/detail/op588 https://www.oneplus.com/support/answer/detail/op588 [4] https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5a_5g https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5a_5g [5] https://www.oneplus.com/9-pro https://www.oneplus.com/9-pro
        Guest42 5y ago
- commoner 5y ago
  If you're trying to combine LineageOS with microG, the most straightforward solution is "LineageOS for microG" which has everything set up for you: https://lineage.microg.org https://lineage.microg.org I know of two other Android flavors that have microG integrated. /e/ is one of them and CalyxOS is the other.

by kop316 5y ago

jeroenhd 5y ago

> It seems that LineageOS has GApps installed It doesn't come with GApps installed, you need to flash those packages manually. That said, LOS also comes without an app store whereas /e/ has a custom F-Droid-compatible store pre-installed. Combining LineageOS and MicroG is kind of hard (relatively), because LineageOS enforces signature validation, which MicroG needs disabled to properly fake the proper Google APIs. There are non-enforcing builds and build instructions available, but that's not the default. /e/ seems to have the necessary patches enabled by default, which makes using popular apps without flashing GApps a lot easier.

Guest42 5y ago
Can you recommend a couple phones that are compatible with LOS + microg? I looked on their sites and it wasn't quite clear
- dron57 5y ago
  I've been using the Pixel 4a 5G for about 6 months with MicroG and Lineage. Works really well. Other than Whatsapp and Google Maps I don't miss anything, but those apps have alternatives too.
  - Guest42 5y ago
    Fantastic!!!!
- commoner 5y ago
  LineageOS for microG supports all phones that LineageOS does. Here's a spreadsheet of the full list along with the specs of each device: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bx6RvTCEGn5zA06lW_uZGZ_dq6qQyCZC_NifmyeC1lM/htmlview https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bx6RvTCEGn5zA06lW_uZ... If you want a more specific recommendation, could you provide your budget and your requirements?
  - Guest42 5y ago
    No budget restrictions although I’d like the ability for Bluetooth to run in the background and not go to sleep , and ideally ip67 or ip68 water protection.
    - commoner 5y ago
      All of the LineageOS phones I've ever used have been able to maintain a Bluetooth connection in the background. If you're fine with a used phone, the OnePlus 8 has a high-end Snapdragon 865 processor and 8 GB RAM.[1] The carrier models have IP68, and unlocked models are manufactured similarly but don't have an official IP rating.[2] If you're getting the T-Mobile carrier model (which may be carrier unlocked at sale), you'll need to request a code and wait a week to unlock the bootloader before you can flash LineageOS.[3] Used models go for $200-300 on eBay depending on condition, and a new factory unlocked model is $399. If you're looking for a new phone, you may want to consider the Pixel 5a which manages to have both IP67 and a headphone jack for $449 new, but uses a mid-level Snapdragon 765G processor paired with 6 GB RAM.[4] The OnePlus 9 Pro is also available with a high-end Snapdragon 888 processor, 12 GB RAM, and IP68 for $969 new or about $600-800 used.[5] [1] https://www.oneplus.com/8 https://www.oneplus.com/8 [2] https://9to5google.com/2020/04/14/oneplus-8-ip68-water-resistance-carriers/ https://9to5google.com/2020/04/14/oneplus-8-ip68-water-resis... [3] https://www.oneplus.com/support/answer/detail/op588 https://www.oneplus.com/support/answer/detail/op588 [4] https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5a_5g https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5a_5g [5] https://www.oneplus.com/9-pro https://www.oneplus.com/9-pro
      - Guest42 5y ago
commoner 5y ago
If you're trying to combine LineageOS with microG, the most straightforward solution is "LineageOS for microG" which has everything set up for you: https://lineage.microg.org https://lineage.microg.org I know of two other Android flavors that have microG integrated. /e/ is one of them and CalyxOS is the other.