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https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/08/05/899365887/charts-how-the-u-s-ranks-on-covid-19-deaths-per-capita-and-by-case-count https://www.npr.org/sect

by ipaddr 5y ago

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/08/05/899365887/charts-how-the-u-s-ranks-on-covid-19-deaths-per-capita-and-by-case-count https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/08/05/8993658... This is what it looked like after the first wave. Belgium was the leader worldwide by large numbers. Sweden was 5th. Fast forward to today: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_by_country https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rate... Sweden is now ranked at 45. Better than Italy, UK, Spain, France which are better countries to compare Sweden against. Sweden is the hub of Northern Europe and the rate in Finland or Norway doesn't make a great comparison.

magicalist 5y ago
Notably Sweden introduced a number of restrictions after that first wave. For instance, GGP is right that restaurants weren't closed down...but they couldn't be full, your party had to be small, and you wouldn't be there at night.
- mariavillosa1 5y ago
  >but they couldn't be full, your party had to be small, and you wouldn't be there at night. Ah yes, the craziest restriction of all, restricting things from being open at night. That way, everyone goes at the same time increasing crowding. But since less people are allowed in, everyone crowds around waiting to get in. So now a place that would have 1 person an hour over 10 hours, instead has 2 people an hour over 5 hours, eg. Does the virus not spread at night or something? I'd think it would make more sense to mandate businesses open more hours, that way people are dispersed across more time and thus less crowded. I don't understand, there must be an obvious reason I'm missing though (most likely!)
  - avh02 5y ago
    My understanding was this prevents people staying around bars and restaurants drinking, and it was (at least informally) accepted knowledge that drunk people don't distance or mask as much
    - mariavillosa1 5y ago
      Here at the bars in Honduras, people don't mask or distance at all, at any hour (including the bartenders who are all unmasked). But it probably does help that they have to go home earlier, so that's sympathetic reasoning.

by ipaddr 5y ago

magicalist 5y ago

Notably Sweden introduced a number of restrictions after that first wave. For instance, GGP is right that restaurants weren't closed down...but they couldn't be full, your party had to be small, and you wouldn't be there at night.

mariavillosa1 5y ago
>but they couldn't be full, your party had to be small, and you wouldn't be there at night. Ah yes, the craziest restriction of all, restricting things from being open at night. That way, everyone goes at the same time increasing crowding. But since less people are allowed in, everyone crowds around waiting to get in. So now a place that would have 1 person an hour over 10 hours, instead has 2 people an hour over 5 hours, eg. Does the virus not spread at night or something? I'd think it would make more sense to mandate businesses open more hours, that way people are dispersed across more time and thus less crowded. I don't understand, there must be an obvious reason I'm missing though (most likely!)
- avh02 5y ago
  My understanding was this prevents people staying around bars and restaurants drinking, and it was (at least informally) accepted knowledge that drunk people don't distance or mask as much
  - mariavillosa1 5y ago
    Here at the bars in Honduras, people don't mask or distance at all, at any hour (including the bartenders who are all unmasked). But it probably does help that they have to go home earlier, so that's sympathetic reasoning.