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> Being forced to travel somewhere random on the planet every two months for work and live out of a hotel room sounds terrible frankly. The company would have t

by screye 5y ago

> Being forced to travel somewhere random on the planet every two months for work and live out of a hotel room sounds terrible frankly. The company would have to spend lavishly and find exotic / fun locations I think otherwise I'd resent it and quit. There is always someone huh. Such an arrangement literally sounds like the dream remote arrangement to me. It never even crossed my mind that there would be people who would say no to a fully paid pseudo-vacation every couple of months. I am completely unable to empathize.

ZFtdGGXwyWIpKKv 5y ago
You're completely unable to empathize with those of us who have families and other commitments outside of work. Being forced to travel for work to some faraway "exotic" destination is literally the worst thing ever for someone who has kids or an ailing relative or even a garden to tend to. Mandatory offsites are extremely painful for those who have strong ties to home. At my company offsites aren't mandatory: those who want to go, can go; but those who for some reason don't want to or can't are not looked down upon as "non-team players" or "antisocial". People are all different, and it's about time you recognized that.
- alchemism 5y ago
  People with responsibilities in a fixed location probably should not take traveling salesperson positions, generally speaking.
  - kwakja 5y ago
    Completely agree, but this seems to be a common theme in the whole comment section - everyone is painting everything in black and white with personal preferences despite acknowledging that personal differences exist. If one can't empathize, I'd hope one would at least be able to sympathize with another's objectively different situation.
  - ZFtdGGXwyWIpKKv 5y ago
    Plenty of software engineers are being made to go on mandatory "retreats" regardless of whether they like it or not.
zz865 5y ago
> I am completely unable to empathize. If you're travelling away who will look after you kids? Pets? Parents? Believe it or not most people have responsibilities.
maximus-decimus 5y ago
You are unable to empathize with not wanting to be forced to leave the comfort of your home/country and suffer jet lag to attend some stupid arbitrary meeting in a place you didn't even choose? And that's without even talking about how hard it already is to get into good habits like going to the gym, or attending your sport practice. Interrupting your routine every 8 weeks seems like a great way to fail at keeping a routine.

by screye 5y ago

ZFtdGGXwyWIpKKv 5y ago

You're completely unable to empathize with those of us who have families and other commitments outside of work. Being forced to travel for work to some faraway "exotic" destination is literally the worst thing ever for someone who has kids or an ailing relative or even a garden to tend to. Mandatory offsites are extremely painful for those who have strong ties to home. At my company offsites aren't mandatory: those who want to go, can go; but those who for some reason don't want to or can't are not looked down upon as "non-team players" or "antisocial". People are all different, and it's about time you recognized that.

alchemism 5y ago
People with responsibilities in a fixed location probably should not take traveling salesperson positions, generally speaking.
- kwakja 5y ago
  Completely agree, but this seems to be a common theme in the whole comment section - everyone is painting everything in black and white with personal preferences despite acknowledging that personal differences exist. If one can't empathize, I'd hope one would at least be able to sympathize with another's objectively different situation.
- ZFtdGGXwyWIpKKv 5y ago
  Plenty of software engineers are being made to go on mandatory "retreats" regardless of whether they like it or not.

zz865 5y ago

> I am completely unable to empathize. If you're travelling away who will look after you kids? Pets? Parents? Believe it or not most people have responsibilities.

maximus-decimus 5y ago

You are unable to empathize with not wanting to be forced to leave the comfort of your home/country and suffer jet lag to attend some stupid arbitrary meeting in a place you didn't even choose? And that's without even talking about how hard it already is to get into good habits like going to the gym, or attending your sport practice. Interrupting your routine every 8 weeks seems like a great way to fail at keeping a routine.