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> it's no longer the 1970's. Oh? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58854081 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58854081
by nodata 5y ago
> it's no longer the 1970's.
Oh? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58854081 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58854081
- deaddodo 5y agoTo be fair, the RoC agrees completely with Xi Jinping. They just disagree on who should run the reunified nation.
- WastingMyTime89 5y agoThat’s only their official position and they can’t change it because that’s one of the PRC red lines. They consider Taiwan dropping their claim on the mainland as a change in the status quo and a casus belli. Everyone know the RoC doesn’t aspire to a reunited China anymore.
- deaddodo 5y agoSo, officially, they agree with Xi Jinping.
- stale2002 5y agoNo, its not. If I point a gun to your head, and tell you that I am going to shoot you, if you do not "agree" that the moon is made of cheese, you are not actually "agreeing". We both know, that you do not agree that the moon is made of cheese, in this situation. I have just made words come out of your mouth, to something that you do not agree with. To say that they "agree" is just a silly word game, that does not reflect the truth of the matter, and instead is playing into propaganda that denies the reality that Taiwan is already a country, and is already independent of china, and that Taiwan is not interesting in being taken over, or taking over china.
- WastingMyTime89 5y agoThey say what the PRC forces them to say but de facto don’t believe in it. It’s a complete misrepresentation to argue that Taiwan agree with China regarding reunification but with reversed roles. Taiwan is a democracy and a majority of Taiwanese want independence but argue for keeping the status quo in order to avoid a war (both the KMT and the DDP - their disagreement is more technical than that). Some wanted Taiwan to declare it in the 90s to force the hand of the USA and win a decisive war but this position seems more precarious nowadays.
- verall 5y agoNice goalpost move from "completely" to "officially" (under duress).
- tyrfing 5y agoThat's not accurate. My understanding is the KMT agrees, and DDP doesn't (specifically: 1992 consensus), and the fact that the population opinion has been shifting towards independence is the primary tension currently. At any rate, summing it up as "the RoC agrees" would seem to simplify a cultural argument along the lines of "the US agrees completely that guns are good". For example: https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3151551/tsai-ing-wen-should-watch-her-words-and-deeds https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3151551/tsai-in...
- eric-hu 5y ago> In response to Xi’s speech, Taiwan’s presidential office said most Taiwanese reject that model and argued that developments in Hong Kong show how “one country, two systems” can turn on a dime. > On Sunday, at an event marking the same revolution, Tsai called on the Taiwanese people to renew their commitment “that the Republic of China and the People’s Republic of China should not be subordinate to each other. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/10/10/taiwan-china-reunification-tsai-ing-wen/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/10/10/taiwan-china... Tsai has not made this one country position part of her administration, and her speech a couple of days ago made that even more explicit.
- davidjytang 5y agoWhat?! One country two system is definitely not something ROC agrees with.