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It's an interesting character study. Jonathan takes the high road and redirects Sam Odio to the public discussion which I think is a great thing to do instead o
by Udo 15y ago
It's an interesting character study. Jonathan takes the high road and redirects Sam Odio to the public discussion which I think is a great thing to do instead of getting caught up in a personal confrontation. Then Sam Odio responds with:
I think you took my olive branch and stomped on it.
In the light of what happened, you can say a lot of negative things about Sam Odio, but at least he's consistent.
- VladRussian 15y agoit looks like he took the olive branch and shoved it up Sam's ...
- georgemcbay 15y agoI don't agree with what Sam Odio did initially, but I also wouldn't exactly call publishing a screenshot of a private email from someone the "high road".
- Udo 15y agoThere was no private content in that mail. The whole of it could be expressed as "LOL UMAD?". I don't think I would have responded so kindly in Jonathan's place. I probably would have taken this as an opportunity to tell Sam Odio what I really think of his actions. So, yes, compared to that Jonathan absolutely took the high road. But also from a philosophical perspective, redirecting this toward the public participants of the card experiment was absolutely the right thing to do.
- epi0Bauqu 15y agoI think it doesn't matter if there was private content or not. The same way Sam violated the social contract of the experiment, I think Johnathan violated the social contract of email. We all realize email we send could be read by anyone, but still don't want it copied and pasted in a public forum. What Jonathan did is of course less annoying, but I still nevertheless find it of a similar nature. I think he could have still made the post and just paraphrased.
- Sam_Odio 15y agoHm, I guess a lot can get lost in translation. :( That "olive branch" comment wasn't intended to be negative. I was saddened by his reply. To address your point: I am not looking for a personal confrontation...just wanting to reach out and make sure he's OK.
- neebz 15y agowhy are you saddened by his reply?
- Udo 15y agoI think the olive branch comment is consistent because it conveys an absolute lack of insight into the way your actions are perceived by other people. Sam, the things you wrote on your blog regarding the whole incident left me speechless at first. It wasn't just because of what you did, it was the tone of superiority and confidence you exhibited throughout that made me really angry - angry enough to attack you very harshly in the other thread. I'm not a confrontational person either by any means, but this actually made me mad enough to explode like that in public. I can only try to imagine how it must have felt for Jonathan. If you're saddened by his reply, that means you still don't understand the moral bankruptcy of your position. Sam, what you did saddened a lot of people. I believe in the end, it's not Jonathan you need to reach out to, it's your own moral compass.
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- danielrhodes 15y agoI'm not seeing why this is all so bad. The whole thing was an experiment to see what would happen and Sam demonstrated one scenario. Self-interest at the cost of societal good is an ever present factor in human behavior and a community cookie jar in the form of a Starbucks card is not going to change that. Jonathan's cold response, given that he obviously thought differently, should be no more suprising than something like this happening in the first place.
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- codeup 15y agoJonathan doesn't even discuss what Sam made of the experiment, but just hands him to the Facebook mob.
- innes 15y agoYes, that was the passive aggressive road, not the high road.
- jsavimbi 15y agoMore than an olive branch, it appears to be more of an appeal to make the hate stop. If Sam Odio was unsure of the consequences or of his ability to handle the consequences of his actions, he should've kept a lower profile instead of cheerleading himself.