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>> work up to four weeks per year fully remote Wow, that's really something. Personally, having spent a pandemic working fully remote I wouldn't even consider
by kreeben 5y ago
>> work up to four weeks per year fully remote
Wow, that's really something.
Personally, having spent a pandemic working fully remote I wouldn't even consider working for a company that didn't offer that as an unquestionable human right, didn't frown upon it, didn't consider it to be "a way to refresh my sense of duty" and didn't think of it as a privilege.
I'm never going back to the open landscape of hell.
- lolsal 5y ago> I wouldn't even consider working for a company that didn't offer that as an unquestionable human right, I don't think things you prefer automatically get elevated to 'unquestionable human rights'.
- kreeben 5y agoThen you must think of it as a privilege. And I shall not work for you.
- lolsal 5y agoI understand and that's fine. I don't actually care about where you work in this context. Human Rights are special things. They aren't preferences. The more you conflate the two, the more you erode your position and the term 'human right' in general. I would urge you to stop doing that.
- kreeben 5y ago>> Human Rights are special things Very true and my point would have been made without me presenting it as such. My apologies.
- filomeno 5y agoWell, at least the right to life is a human right. It turned out that having to work in a crowded space with many others can be a real threat for your life.
- Cookingboy 5y agoMan as much as I hate the whole "snowflake" thing...comments like yours really are pushing it lol.
- shukantpal 5y agoI won't hire you either.
- kreeben 5y agoThe old "you can't fire me because I quit" inverted. That's fine.
- shukantpal 5y agoSure, if that makes you feel good about yourself.
- nsonha 5y agoDidn’t you do it first?
- fortylove 5y agoI thoroughly enjoyed this whole sub thread.
- ripper1138 5y agoUnquestionable human right?? Christ we are spoiled in tech.
- kreeben 5y agoIt is not I who is spoiled. It is old school boomer management who have become spoiled and exploitative.
- ripper1138 5y agoWe are very fortunate to be paid as much as we are for sitting at home and working on a computer. Compared to 99% of other adults around the world, we are spoiled.
- ClumsyPilot 5y agoa large chunk of the workforce, from accountants to stock brokers to HR, work on a computer. It's not a privilege to have no fresh air and to spend 70% of your life in front of a screen on a chair.
- colinmhayes 5y agohaha yes it is. The vast majority of people don't have that opportunity.
- tuesdayrain 5y agoYour phrasing makes it sound like people should be grateful that their generous employers pay them so much. Employers don't do that because they're nice, they do it because tech workers generate enough value to justify paying large sums. Not paying them accordingly will result in them getting poached by another company.
- kreeben 5y agoI don't fully agree. Instead, what I think, is that the stock holders of the company I work for are very fortunate that I work for them. Are we better off compared to service workers? Oh yeah, definitely.
- MomoXenosaga 5y agoThis is the most privileged, special snowflake and tech bubble thing I've ever read on this site.
- tdfx 5y agoIt's not limited to HN. Even in a local dev Slack community, I often see people expecting companies to flagellate themselves just for a chance to hire the unique, special talent that they believe and need constant reassurance that they are. As far as I can tell, it's unique to tech because that kind of talent is in demand, but the toxic behavior it brings out in some people is really something to behold. I prefer to know my value and vote with my feet. No pontificating required.
- WalterBright 5y agoI guess we can dispense with the usual idea that workers have no choice but submit to anything a company wants.