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There have been ~180 million vaccinations in the US and approximately 16,000 deaths shortly after receiving it, along with over 75,000 hospitalizations [1]. Th

There have been ~180 million vaccinations in the US and approximately 16,000 deaths shortly after receiving it, along with over 75,000 hospitalizations [1]. That implies the odds of dying from the vaccine are 1 in 11,250, and odds of serious complications requiring hospitalization are 1 in 2,400. The odds of a healthy 35 year old dying from COVID are 1 in 2,700. So the odds of serious, possibly permanent injury, or death, from the vaccine are slightly higher than the odds of dying from COVID for those 35 and younger. I realize that you will now dispute VAERS numbers, but they are the closest thing we have to accurate data on this. [1] https://openvaers.com/ https://openvaers.com/

guitarbill 5y ago
> approximately 16,000 deaths shortly after receiving it [...] That implies the odds of dying from the vaccine are 1 in 11,250 No it doesn't. The website you link to even specifically states "Reports are not proof of causality".
- downandout 5y ago
  Yes, I am aware. However, this is the best data we have. Otherwise healthy people dying or being hospitalized shortly after receiving the vaccine, of internal causes, does not necessarily prove causality but it is certainly an indicator of it. We don’t understand the vaccine well enough to know all of the ways in which it injures people, so we have to go by the numbers. This is why we normally test these things for a decade before approving them.
judahmeek 5y ago
According to your own statistics... Odds of dying shortly after vaccine (for all agree groups?): 1 in 11,250 Odds of healthy 35 year old dying from covid: 1 in 2,700 So a healthy 35 year old is 4x more likely to die from covid than vaccine.
- downandout 5y ago
  Yes, but the odds of hospitalization after vaccination (which might include permanent, life-altering injury from it) or death is 1 in 2,400. Which is precisely what my comment said.

guitarbill 5y ago

> approximately 16,000 deaths shortly after receiving it [...] That implies the odds of dying from the vaccine are 1 in 11,250 No it doesn't. The website you link to even specifically states "Reports are not proof of causality".

downandout 5y ago
Yes, I am aware. However, this is the best data we have. Otherwise healthy people dying or being hospitalized shortly after receiving the vaccine, of internal causes, does not necessarily prove causality but it is certainly an indicator of it. We don’t understand the vaccine well enough to know all of the ways in which it injures people, so we have to go by the numbers. This is why we normally test these things for a decade before approving them.

judahmeek 5y ago

According to your own statistics... Odds of dying shortly after vaccine (for all agree groups?): 1 in 11,250 Odds of healthy 35 year old dying from covid: 1 in 2,700 So a healthy 35 year old is 4x more likely to die from covid than vaccine.

downandout 5y ago
Yes, but the odds of hospitalization after vaccination (which might include permanent, life-altering injury from it) or death is 1 in 2,400. Which is precisely what my comment said.