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Well it looks like cdrtools is in need of a new maintainer now, if the outcome is that you carry on the legacy and let the tool live on, that would be great!

strenholme 5y ago
Yes, indeed, I’ve been annoyed that there isn’t a maintainer for the Debian port for a while. I will maintain the code based on the final pure-GPL version of the code, to avoid the entire licensing issue. If Eric Youngdale could come out of the woodwork and retroactively add a “CDR tools, as a special GPL exception, can integrate CDDL licensed code” clause, that might allow us to use Schilling’s more recent code, but, to be safe, I prefer to work with the older codebase to keep the license simple.
- pantalaimon 5y ago
  > I will maintain the code based on the final pure-GPL version of the code, to avoid the entire licensing issue. But that's what Debian did already with wodim/cdrkit much to Jörg's dismay. I don't think it received much development and afaik never got BluRay support.
  - strenholme 5y ago
    The wodim / cdrkit stuff is what I would maintain -- there are a lot of bugs for it which have been ignored for too long: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=genisoimage https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=geniso...
- toyg 5y ago
  > to be safe If the copyright holder is dead, there is nothing to be afraid of in violating his license, surely...? At worst you could ask his heirs to add that exception.
  - snerbles 5y ago
    It'll be up to the estate of the rights holder, and they are less likely to understand the nuances of open source licensing.
    - fragmede 5y ago
      Yes. In the 'reverts to copyright' view of GPL, the estate gets full rights and can proceed however they wish. Which, thanks to the Mouse Corporation, is a long time. > Copyright protection generally lasts for 70 years after the death of the author. If the work was a "work for hire", then copyright persists for 120 years after creation or 95 years after publication, whichever is shorter. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_St...]
rhabarba 5y ago
I hope that SCCS and bosh will also have new maintainers. I use them both.

strenholme 5y ago

Yes, indeed, I’ve been annoyed that there isn’t a maintainer for the Debian port for a while. I will maintain the code based on the final pure-GPL version of the code, to avoid the entire licensing issue. If Eric Youngdale could come out of the woodwork and retroactively add a “CDR tools, as a special GPL exception, can integrate CDDL licensed code” clause, that might allow us to use Schilling’s more recent code, but, to be safe, I prefer to work with the older codebase to keep the license simple.

pantalaimon 5y ago
> I will maintain the code based on the final pure-GPL version of the code, to avoid the entire licensing issue. But that's what Debian did already with wodim/cdrkit much to Jörg's dismay. I don't think it received much development and afaik never got BluRay support.
- strenholme 5y ago
  The wodim / cdrkit stuff is what I would maintain -- there are a lot of bugs for it which have been ignored for too long: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=genisoimage https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=geniso...
toyg 5y ago
> to be safe If the copyright holder is dead, there is nothing to be afraid of in violating his license, surely...? At worst you could ask his heirs to add that exception.
- snerbles 5y ago
  It'll be up to the estate of the rights holder, and they are less likely to understand the nuances of open source licensing.
  - fragmede 5y ago
    Yes. In the 'reverts to copyright' view of GPL, the estate gets full rights and can proceed however they wish. Which, thanks to the Mouse Corporation, is a long time. > Copyright protection generally lasts for 70 years after the death of the author. If the work was a "work for hire", then copyright persists for 120 years after creation or 95 years after publication, whichever is shorter. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_St...]

rhabarba 5y ago

I hope that SCCS and bosh will also have new maintainers. I use them both.