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When do you think emergency workers should retire?

• refurb 5y ago
  I have no idea what CA pensions are like but NY it was generous to a fault. Someone did an analysis of the NYFD and noticed that overtime peaked during the last 3 years of service (no shit, that’s what the pension is based on). They also noticed that a huge proportion were retiring with disability (like 70%) which provides a pension “kicker” and boosters it further. What you ended up with was firefighters working 30+ hrs of OT per week and qualifying for disability and retiring with 120% of their normal salary versus the typical 60%. Dude we’re retiring with pensions of $120,000 per year until they die. I don’t blame them for gaming the system but Jesus Christ.
  • pjc50 5y ago
    Someone commented that the most effective way to dig out abusive and violent police officers was simply to audit their overtime properly; fraud is rampant, and there's a correlation between ignoring one set of laws and ignoring another.
    • Zigurd 5y ago
      That's right. Detail and overtime fraud is rampant and in some PDs it is pervasive. I am surprised nobody has tried to "defund the police" simply by enforcing the law.