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The idea is complete nonsense. Even with absolute worst case climate change scenarios, the average person will have a quality of life vastly above basically any
by ceilingcorner 5y ago
The idea is complete nonsense. Even with absolute worst case climate change scenarios, the average person will have a quality of life vastly above basically anyone in the past. Especially during the Middle Ages when plague was killing people in the street. Yet those people still had families and children.
This is a cultural phenomenon, not a rational one, and has more to do with the West’s lack of a coherent worldview in our post-Christian age. It’s a problem of nihilism.
The “interesting” part is that this, like all scenarios, has evolutionary consequences. People that don’t buy into the climate change = I don’t want kids narrative will out-reproduce and out last those that do. The future isn’t a small society of rationalist childfree vegans, it’s comprised of people that have a lot of kids.
- nisegami 5y ago>the average person will have a quality of life vastly above basically anyone in the past. Wasn't right then, isn't right now.
- fleddr 5y agoPast comparisons outside recent memory are useless. They are correct, but still useless. Already right now for younger generations their awesome "quality of life" means they can't even start a family. Everything is unaffordable. It's not a solution to say "you have it so easy compared to the worst part of the middle ages".
- ceilingcorner 5y agoEverything isn’t unaffordable. Living at a high quality of life with iPhones and Uber eats might be unaffordable in certain cities. But the basic costs of having a family (food, shelter, etc.) are probably cheaper today than at any time in history. I don’t think people understand how poor the average person was even a century ago.
- fleddr 5y agoWell, for sure it depends on where you live. In my country, young people can't ever own a home and rent eats up half their income. At age 30-35, they still don't have their basics in place, and the choice for kids is postponed until an ever higher age. But I'm sure it's all fine, because they have a phone.