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The alternative isn't walking 20 miles everyday, it's to take a bus or a train and only use the car when you need to drive far or transport something big. So li
by ajuc 5y ago
The alternative isn't walking 20 miles everyday, it's to take a bus or a train and only use the car when you need to drive far or transport something big. So like once a week or less often.
At least that's how I use my car. And it sometimes gets down to -25C here in the winter and I've seen over a meter of snow on the roads a few times. Funnily enough - when it happens usually more people use public transport cause a big bus have easier time driving over that than a small personal cars, and besides you don't have to shovel the snow for half an hour in the morning to take a bus.
- LinuxBender 5y agoThat would work but I have never seen a city bus here. The town just isn't big enough to justify it. I've seen tour buses on the highway but they are going to Yellowstone and don't make stops.
- ajuc 5y agoYeah that sucks. I don't understand why my home village of 500 people have a bus to nearest city every 30 minutes and big towns in USA don't.
- pjmlp 5y ago40 Km around here takes about 30 minutes drive or almost 2h with public transports, due to the connections and waiting times. Not counting the actuall walk into the nearest stop, and how much humans they might try to fit into a single bus or train wagon. Guess which option people go to.
- tinus_hn 5y agoGuess why it takes 2 hours! If cars weren’t as accessible public transport would be better.
- pjmlp 5y ago1 - travel to main station 2 - change transport 3 - travel to neighbouring city 4 - change transport 5 - travel to city area where customer is located 6 - change transport 7 - travel to the actual neighbourhood where customer building is located Alternatively, 1 - travel directly to customer building
- tinus_hn 5y agoThanks for stating the obvious. Now go and look at big cities where a car is impractical and unaffordable. Guess what! People manage by using public transport.
- pjmlp 5y agoPeople survive by using public transport.
- tinus_hn 5y agoYeah nobody wants to live in these big cities anymore, it’s far too busy!
- majormajor 5y agoThere's certainly a crowd where "I don't have to own a car or drive" is a benefit of a dense city. But does anyone ever think "I don't want to have access to a car at all"? Rich people in dense cities, even ones that don't want to drive themselves, travel by car all the time - they might not be driving themselves, though. Sometimes they travel by helicopter, which has even more externalities. You have to look at what the wealthy do in terms of understanding what people want - if someone doesn't ever have or take a car because they can't afford it, that doesn't mean they wouldn't want to.
- tinus_hn 5y agoPeople probably think ‘I don’t want to pay for having access to a car’ all the time. People want to snap their fingers and be at their destination. Not surprising and not very useful to know.
- coding123 5y agoExcept that about 30 million people just went remote, and when I say remote I mean 20 minutes from town where there are no buses.