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I'd say some don't like to hear the truth. But I get it. It's painful and unpleasant to hear especially when it comes to having any sort of empathy for the demi

I'd say some don't like to hear the truth. But I get it. It's painful and unpleasant to hear especially when it comes to having any sort of empathy for the demise of fossil fuels and all of the related industries. In addition to all the fossil fuel vehicles that you mentioned, you have also consider all of the industries and livelihoods as well (I'm sure you meant this implicitly). Those who work in oil-fields/sea-platforms, ICE factories, refinement equipment, and so on... If such a transition could happen over night, it would be devastating to so many industries, individuals... even entire economies and countries. While it's difficult to have any sympathy for the incumbent/legacy/ICE car manufactures being "unable to compete" with Tesla and new wave of Chinese EV manufactures, it can't be easy for any of them to transition without significant pain. Esp with all of the incentives, laws, etc... that have set up over the last century. You have billions of dollars of oil subsidies, franchise laws, worker unions, and so on. This where the government needs to step in. Fossil fuel subsidies need to be phased out. Training citizens with the knowledge and experience to work in these new industries needs to be provided. New incentives for manufactures to transition to sustainable methods of transportation need to be created. Old one eliminated. Ties to and influence of lobbies associated to legacy industries and fossil fuels need to be dismantled, even if the only way to go about that is through the creation of new, more powerful and influential lobbies that represent clean and progressive alternatives. I have my doubts that Tesla would be what it is today if they had played by the book, no matter how superior their technology is. Clean tech can't fill the void left by fossil fuels? Start promoting and evangelizing the advantages of nuclear options. I guess my point is it's going to be painful no matter how much people fetishize clean tech. Everyone is going to suffer in one way or another, but it has to happen and it needs to start now. I know that there are things being done about it already, but it's not enough.

angelzen 5y ago
> Fossil fuel subsidies need to be phased out. Fossil fuel subsidies are a social stability measure. There are going to be hard times when people can't afford fuel to heat their homes in winter, and have to endure lectures by the private-jet-to-next-climate-conference-crowd on how morally flawed they are for still affording to light up a candle at night.
- mjmahone17 5y ago
  There’s a pretty simple solution there: move the fossil fuel subsidies to subsidize people directly. For instance by paying the first $N of their fuel bills (where N is determined based on something like the expected required energy for the month). This way people in smaller-than-average and more energy efficient homes don’t get slammed by high prices, but they can still save even more by reducing their energy needs.

angelzen 5y ago

> Fossil fuel subsidies need to be phased out. Fossil fuel subsidies are a social stability measure. There are going to be hard times when people can't afford fuel to heat their homes in winter, and have to endure lectures by the private-jet-to-next-climate-conference-crowd on how morally flawed they are for still affording to light up a candle at night.

mjmahone17 5y ago
There’s a pretty simple solution there: move the fossil fuel subsidies to subsidize people directly. For instance by paying the first $N of their fuel bills (where N is determined based on something like the expected required energy for the month). This way people in smaller-than-average and more energy efficient homes don’t get slammed by high prices, but they can still save even more by reducing their energy needs.