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Reminds me of this story by Andy Miller who sold his company to Apple, and almost lost the chance during the meeting. https://youtu.be/k7f-51oy0OA https://yout

by plasma 5y ago

Reminds me of this story by Andy Miller who sold his company to Apple, and almost lost the chance during the meeting. https://youtu.be/k7f-51oy0OA https://youtu.be/k7f-51oy0OA Starts at 26m50s

moreira 5y ago
Off-topic, but if you do https://youtu.be/k7f-51oy0OA?t=26m50s https://youtu.be/k7f-51oy0OA?t=26m50s instead of typing the time separately, it'll load the video straight at the right time. Edit: Loved watching it by the way, thank you for the link!
alfiedotwtf 5y ago
Steve may have changed the world, and Andy would have made a lot of money... but life is too short - I promised myself to never work for an asshole ever again and so I cringed watching these two in the video glorify Steve's asshole behavior. If Steve leaned over to me and changed price during negotiation, or told me to fire everyone who didn't want to move from Boston to Cupertino (if that wasn't part of the original deal), I would have walked. But that laugh, saying a project would have taken 6 months but only given 4 weeks... stop glorifying martyrdom people!
- mempko 5y ago
  The problem with people in general is we don't know how to deal with sociopaths. Unfortunately we seem to glorify them here on HN. As a computer person who loves them, Steve made them worse not better. We live in a world where most computers are now locked down, spyware laden, ad serving, micro transaction sucking, subscription rent seeking, pieces of garbage. When I look at iPhones and iPads I get sad for the children.
  - mcphage 5y ago
    > We live in a world where most computers are now locked down, spyware laden, ad serving, micro transaction sucking, subscription rent seeking, pieces of garbage. When I look at iPhones and iPads I get sad for the children. Interesting in that some of those items Apple pushes for, and some of those items Apple pushes very hard against.

by plasma 5y ago

Reminds me of this story by Andy Miller who sold his company to Apple, and almost lost the chance during the meeting. https://youtu.be/k7f-51oy0OA https://youtu.be/k7f-51oy0OA Starts at 26m50s

moreira 5y ago

Off-topic, but if you do https://youtu.be/k7f-51oy0OA?t=26m50s https://youtu.be/k7f-51oy0OA?t=26m50s instead of typing the time separately, it'll load the video straight at the right time. Edit: Loved watching it by the way, thank you for the link!

alfiedotwtf 5y ago

Steve may have changed the world, and Andy would have made a lot of money... but life is too short - I promised myself to never work for an asshole ever again and so I cringed watching these two in the video glorify Steve's asshole behavior. If Steve leaned over to me and changed price during negotiation, or told me to fire everyone who didn't want to move from Boston to Cupertino (if that wasn't part of the original deal), I would have walked. But that laugh, saying a project would have taken 6 months but only given 4 weeks... stop glorifying martyrdom people!

mempko 5y ago
The problem with people in general is we don't know how to deal with sociopaths. Unfortunately we seem to glorify them here on HN. As a computer person who loves them, Steve made them worse not better. We live in a world where most computers are now locked down, spyware laden, ad serving, micro transaction sucking, subscription rent seeking, pieces of garbage. When I look at iPhones and iPads I get sad for the children.
- mcphage 5y ago
  > We live in a world where most computers are now locked down, spyware laden, ad serving, micro transaction sucking, subscription rent seeking, pieces of garbage. When I look at iPhones and iPads I get sad for the children. Interesting in that some of those items Apple pushes for, and some of those items Apple pushes very hard against.