> close to native performance if you are careful I'd like to add that this argument exists for pretty much all "slow" languages and that "if you're careful" of

> close to native performance if you are careful I'd like to add that this argument exists for pretty much all "slow" languages and that "if you're careful" often can mean "throw away all upsides your language provides" [1]. Personally, I find these discussions tiring because the ones arguing such points are usually the kind of person that doggedly clings to the "wrong tool for the job". For example: Although I see rust as the better alternative in many places, I personally find C++ to still be a better language than Java. That doesn't mean I'll insist that Java has no worth or that every program should be written in lower level languages. Horses for courses. Why can't we just go the Python way and accept the shortcomings of the languages we hold dear? [1]: Edit: For GCed languages, this often is "avoid the GC at all costs and essentially write less readable C".