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Are you sure about "donated"? My understanding is that Israel paid well above market to go to the front of the line, Japan is definitely paying for doses... do

by donw 5y ago

Are you sure about "donated"? My understanding is that Israel paid well above market to go to the front of the line, Japan is definitely paying for doses... do you have links to authoritative primary sources on this (e.g., not a news organization or activist group)? (I don't know, so I'm actually curious here)

fastball 5y ago
https://www.gavi.org/covax-facility https://www.gavi.org/covax-facility https://www.state.gov/covid-19-recovery/vaccine-deliveries/ https://www.state.gov/covid-19-recovery/vaccine-deliveries/
Thorrez 5y ago
Rich countries (e.g. US, Israel, Japan) paid extra to get doses first, then once they had enough, the US (and probably other countries) paid for doses for poorer countries. https://www.state.gov/covid-19-recovery/vaccine-deliveries/ https://www.state.gov/covid-19-recovery/vaccine-deliveries/ E.g. (first alphabetically (Africa > Angola)): https://www.state.gov/countries-areas/angola/ https://www.state.gov/countries-areas/angola/ >The United States continues to make great strides in its efforts to distribute safe and effective vaccines globally. We are happy to announce our donation of 1,182,870 doses of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to Angola on August 24 with our partners GAVI and the African Union.
- donw 5y ago
  Excellent, thank you!
KennyBlanken 5y ago
What does Israel paying above market rate to "go to the front of the line" or Japan "paying for doses" have to do with whether other countries are donating doses to impoverished nations? > do you have links to authoritative original sources on this (e.g., not a news organization ...What. The. What.
- beebmam 5y ago
  When has ethics meant anything in international affairs? Sorry to burst your bubble, but every nation is out for its own best interests, which sometimes align with other nations' interests.
  - fastball 5y ago
    Don't understand the relevance of this comment.
- hammock 5y ago
  >...What. The. What. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_source https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_source
Hamuko 5y ago
Why wouldn't Japan be paying for its doses? We're talking about a country rich enough to be in the G7.
fsloth 5y ago
Israel and Japan are quite well off and don't need donations. For reference good place to start is observing their nominal GDP (not an absolute measure but good first guess gauge). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi... The countries that would need vaccine donations can be generally found at the end of the said list with least GDP:s.

by donw 5y ago

fastball 5y ago

https://www.gavi.org/covax-facility https://www.gavi.org/covax-facility https://www.state.gov/covid-19-recovery/vaccine-deliveries/ https://www.state.gov/covid-19-recovery/vaccine-deliveries/

Thorrez 5y ago

Rich countries (e.g. US, Israel, Japan) paid extra to get doses first, then once they had enough, the US (and probably other countries) paid for doses for poorer countries. https://www.state.gov/covid-19-recovery/vaccine-deliveries/ https://www.state.gov/covid-19-recovery/vaccine-deliveries/ E.g. (first alphabetically (Africa > Angola)): https://www.state.gov/countries-areas/angola/ https://www.state.gov/countries-areas/angola/ >The United States continues to make great strides in its efforts to distribute safe and effective vaccines globally. We are happy to announce our donation of 1,182,870 doses of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to Angola on August 24 with our partners GAVI and the African Union.

donw 5y ago
Excellent, thank you!

KennyBlanken 5y ago

What does Israel paying above market rate to "go to the front of the line" or Japan "paying for doses" have to do with whether other countries are donating doses to impoverished nations? > do you have links to authoritative original sources on this (e.g., not a news organization ...What. The. What.

beebmam 5y ago
When has ethics meant anything in international affairs? Sorry to burst your bubble, but every nation is out for its own best interests, which sometimes align with other nations' interests.
- fastball 5y ago
  Don't understand the relevance of this comment.
hammock 5y ago
>...What. The. What. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_source https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_source

Hamuko 5y ago

Why wouldn't Japan be paying for its doses? We're talking about a country rich enough to be in the G7.

fsloth 5y ago

Israel and Japan are quite well off and don't need donations. For reference good place to start is observing their nominal GDP (not an absolute measure but good first guess gauge). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi... The countries that would need vaccine donations can be generally found at the end of the said list with least GDP:s.