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Shampoo, chocolate, and coffee are products where you have expensive brands. Having said that, for all those products with fancy brands I would spend 13 dollars

by whazor 5y ago

Shampoo, chocolate, and coffee are products where you have expensive brands. Having said that, for all those products with fancy brands I would spend 13 dollars in The Netherlands. For cheapest brands only 6 dollar in total.

soylentnewsorg 5y ago
And it's the same here. Where 12oz of coffe at walmart can cost you $3-20, hamburger buns can cost you $3-20 depending on brand and price, and chocolate can be had for under a dollar, what the OP states tells us literally nothing. My toothpaste at walmart is $1 for a 6.5oz tube. My old shampoo is currently 88c for 12oz. The one I switched to - nioxin, is $20 for 16oz. Things at the grocery store are dirt cheap in the US compared to any country in Europe. And the salaries are more. Unless we're talking Ukraine and friends, where carrots and potatoes are pretty much free (while meat is of lower quality and higher price). But they're definitely much, much cheaper than where you are. Hand-trimmed chicken breast, without the rib meat, is $2/lb. Electronics - your price number in EUR is our number. But in USD. source: I have been to every EU country for work, and lived in several long-term. And am originally from Europe.
- dustintrex 5y ago
  $20 for hamburger buns? In Australia even the fancy pants brioche buns at the local Whole Foods equivalent are $5 for 4. https://www.harrisfarm.com.au/products/boundary-road-bread-brioche-burger-buns-81480 https://www.harrisfarm.com.au/products/boundary-road-bread-b...
  - kleiba 5y ago
    And let's not forget differences in package sizes. For instance, I could buy shampoo, burger buns, ground coffee, and a chocolate bar for under 7 Euros at Aldi, but that would mean: - Shampoo: ~8oz - Pack of burger buns: 6 pieces - Ground coffee: bag of 2 pounds - Chocolate bar: probably the same as everywhere
    - carlob 5y ago
      I highly doubt you can buy 2 pounds (900 g) of coffee, which is a month supply for 7 euros. The cheapest coffee I've seen in Italy is about 2 euros for 250 g.
      - grenoire 5y ago
        I mean, 7 / 2 × 250 = 875. Not far off? There's even filter coffee here in the Netherlands that's about 4 euros a kilo.
      - drw85 5y ago
        The store brand coffee at Aldi is 3.99 if i remember correctly and that's 500g. So that's definitely realistic.
        kleiba 5y ago
        https://www.aldi-sued.de/de/p.amaroy-premium-roestkaffee-classic-g.490000000000044800.html https://www.aldi-sued.de/de/p.amaroy-premium-roestkaffee-cla...
      - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
        I used to live in France. Here's coffee at the largest euro grocery store chain for 3EUR a kilo. https://www.carrefour.fr/s?sort=productSimpleView.pricePerUnitCents&q=Caf%C3%A9%20en%20grains https://www.carrefour.fr/s?sort=productSimpleView.pricePerUn...
      - kleiba 5y ago
        You actually can, but I still made a mistake in my calculation above: the correct sum for all the products is more around 10 Euros rather than 7.
  - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
    $100 for 60 hamburger buns. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Europastry-Large-Crystal-Sliced-Burger-Bun-2-75-Ounce-60-per-case/513913455 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Europastry-Large-Crystal-Sliced-B... $20 for 8 special dietary hamburger buns. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Low-Carb-Hamburger-Buns-Great-Low-Carb-Bread-Company-4-Buns-16-oz-2-Pack/734821304 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Low-Carb-Hamburger-Buns-Great-Low... 88 cents for 8 hamburger buns. yes, eight store brand buns for under a dollar. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Hamburger-Buns-11-oz-8-Count/10450104?athbdg=L1200 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Hamburger-Buns-11-oz-...
    - toqy 5y ago
      I wouldn’t count your expensive example as they are 3rd party sold and shipped, not something that could be picked up at the local store. Very misleading example.
      - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
        I don't get this - being hyperfocused on completely irrelevant details. "That blue race car has a low suspension making it hard to drive on the streets." "Wrong, the car is a navy color, very misleading example." Yes, the most expensive at the walmart physical store are $7-8 for 8 after tax. The point of the example is that 60 buns are a hundred bucks. The guy never said how many buns he bought. There are 8 per package, he could have bought 3 boxes. The example is that not given quantity the price could be anything, and the OP's post where he gives a total for an unknown quantity or brand of anything, is not useful to support a claim that prices went up.
        esyir 5y ago
        It's a pretty terrible case for "everything is getting crazy expensive". If that 28 buck cost stems from all his ultrapremium/expensive brands, that's on him, not inflation.
        ihattendorf 5y ago
        They said "Yesterday at Walmart i bought", not "Yesterday at Walmart.com sold and shipped by Otoric - Free 2Day Shipping* | Otoric Inc. i bought" Buying food from third parties online is not the same as in store.
- KennyBlanken 5y ago
  > Things at the grocery store are dirt cheap in the US Grocery and basic goods prices can vary significantly around the US. I live in a rural area where groceries are expensive as hell, in part because a european-owned supermarket chain has been buying up property that could be used for grocery stores, slapping deed restrictions on it that make it unusable for a grocery store, and then putting it back on the market. Meanwhile I go on vacation to another rural area and groceries are cheap as hell...
  - flipbrad 5y ago
    Can I read more about that purchase practice? It seems high risk to buy property, reduce its value and then put it back out for sale ...
    - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
      Yeah, this seems like a made up explanation for high food prices. Large grocery stores build their own buildings. Like all of them do. Walmarts all look the same, Safeways all look the same, Jewel al looks the same. Those stores buy land, and if anything is on it, they knock it down and rebuild. There's lots of land in a rural area, and Walmart can buy it and build something. Also, not a lot of rezoning going on in the country - and no euro grocer is going to win a fight against a Walmart. Likely, prices are high because population is super low, and people can buy real cheap at farmer markets where they just sell direct. European grocery stores buying up property in some rural area? That's called a conspiracy theory - blame problems of low population and no easy highway access, because we refuse to vote for taxes that pay for infrastructure on those scheming socialists an ocean away.
      - KennyBlanken 5y ago
        It's not "made up". https://www.google.com/search?q=supermarket+chain+buying+property+deed+restrictions https://www.google.com/search?q=supermarket+chain+buying+pro... Next time when your personal incredulity finds something unbelievable, instead of assuming you must be right and the other person is wrong, just try a simple google search. In my area property is constrained and in high demand so deed restrictions that only block one industry don't inhibit sales much. Our population is not "super low"; our county has a third of the population of the largest city in our region of the US. > people can buy real cheap at farmer markets where they just sell direct Just because I said "rural" doesn't mean there's farmland.

by whazor 5y ago

soylentnewsorg 5y ago

And it's the same here. Where 12oz of coffe at walmart can cost you $3-20, hamburger buns can cost you $3-20 depending on brand and price, and chocolate can be had for under a dollar, what the OP states tells us literally nothing. My toothpaste at walmart is $1 for a 6.5oz tube. My old shampoo is currently 88c for 12oz. The one I switched to - nioxin, is $20 for 16oz. Things at the grocery store are dirt cheap in the US compared to any country in Europe. And the salaries are more. Unless we're talking Ukraine and friends, where carrots and potatoes are pretty much free (while meat is of lower quality and higher price). But they're definitely much, much cheaper than where you are. Hand-trimmed chicken breast, without the rib meat, is $2/lb. Electronics - your price number in EUR is our number. But in USD. source: I have been to every EU country for work, and lived in several long-term. And am originally from Europe.

dustintrex 5y ago
$20 for hamburger buns? In Australia even the fancy pants brioche buns at the local Whole Foods equivalent are $5 for 4. https://www.harrisfarm.com.au/products/boundary-road-bread-brioche-burger-buns-81480 https://www.harrisfarm.com.au/products/boundary-road-bread-b...
- kleiba 5y ago
  And let's not forget differences in package sizes. For instance, I could buy shampoo, burger buns, ground coffee, and a chocolate bar for under 7 Euros at Aldi, but that would mean: - Shampoo: ~8oz - Pack of burger buns: 6 pieces - Ground coffee: bag of 2 pounds - Chocolate bar: probably the same as everywhere
  - carlob 5y ago
    I highly doubt you can buy 2 pounds (900 g) of coffee, which is a month supply for 7 euros. The cheapest coffee I've seen in Italy is about 2 euros for 250 g.
    - grenoire 5y ago
      I mean, 7 / 2 × 250 = 875. Not far off? There's even filter coffee here in the Netherlands that's about 4 euros a kilo.
    - drw85 5y ago
      The store brand coffee at Aldi is 3.99 if i remember correctly and that's 500g. So that's definitely realistic.
      - kleiba 5y ago
        https://www.aldi-sued.de/de/p.amaroy-premium-roestkaffee-classic-g.490000000000044800.html https://www.aldi-sued.de/de/p.amaroy-premium-roestkaffee-cla...
    - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
      I used to live in France. Here's coffee at the largest euro grocery store chain for 3EUR a kilo. https://www.carrefour.fr/s?sort=productSimpleView.pricePerUnitCents&q=Caf%C3%A9%20en%20grains https://www.carrefour.fr/s?sort=productSimpleView.pricePerUn...
    - kleiba 5y ago
      You actually can, but I still made a mistake in my calculation above: the correct sum for all the products is more around 10 Euros rather than 7.
- soylentnewsorg 5y ago
  $100 for 60 hamburger buns. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Europastry-Large-Crystal-Sliced-Burger-Bun-2-75-Ounce-60-per-case/513913455 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Europastry-Large-Crystal-Sliced-B... $20 for 8 special dietary hamburger buns. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Low-Carb-Hamburger-Buns-Great-Low-Carb-Bread-Company-4-Buns-16-oz-2-Pack/734821304 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Low-Carb-Hamburger-Buns-Great-Low... 88 cents for 8 hamburger buns. yes, eight store brand buns for under a dollar. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Hamburger-Buns-11-oz-8-Count/10450104?athbdg=L1200 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Hamburger-Buns-11-oz-...
  - toqy 5y ago
    I wouldn’t count your expensive example as they are 3rd party sold and shipped, not something that could be picked up at the local store. Very misleading example.
    - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
      I don't get this - being hyperfocused on completely irrelevant details. "That blue race car has a low suspension making it hard to drive on the streets." "Wrong, the car is a navy color, very misleading example." Yes, the most expensive at the walmart physical store are $7-8 for 8 after tax. The point of the example is that 60 buns are a hundred bucks. The guy never said how many buns he bought. There are 8 per package, he could have bought 3 boxes. The example is that not given quantity the price could be anything, and the OP's post where he gives a total for an unknown quantity or brand of anything, is not useful to support a claim that prices went up.
      - esyir 5y ago
        It's a pretty terrible case for "everything is getting crazy expensive". If that 28 buck cost stems from all his ultrapremium/expensive brands, that's on him, not inflation.
      - ihattendorf 5y ago
        They said "Yesterday at Walmart i bought", not "Yesterday at Walmart.com sold and shipped by Otoric - Free 2Day Shipping* | Otoric Inc. i bought" Buying food from third parties online is not the same as in store.
KennyBlanken 5y ago
> Things at the grocery store are dirt cheap in the US Grocery and basic goods prices can vary significantly around the US. I live in a rural area where groceries are expensive as hell, in part because a european-owned supermarket chain has been buying up property that could be used for grocery stores, slapping deed restrictions on it that make it unusable for a grocery store, and then putting it back on the market. Meanwhile I go on vacation to another rural area and groceries are cheap as hell...
- flipbrad 5y ago
  Can I read more about that purchase practice? It seems high risk to buy property, reduce its value and then put it back out for sale ...
  - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
    Yeah, this seems like a made up explanation for high food prices. Large grocery stores build their own buildings. Like all of them do. Walmarts all look the same, Safeways all look the same, Jewel al looks the same. Those stores buy land, and if anything is on it, they knock it down and rebuild. There's lots of land in a rural area, and Walmart can buy it and build something. Also, not a lot of rezoning going on in the country - and no euro grocer is going to win a fight against a Walmart. Likely, prices are high because population is super low, and people can buy real cheap at farmer markets where they just sell direct. European grocery stores buying up property in some rural area? That's called a conspiracy theory - blame problems of low population and no easy highway access, because we refuse to vote for taxes that pay for infrastructure on those scheming socialists an ocean away.
    - KennyBlanken 5y ago
      It's not "made up". https://www.google.com/search?q=supermarket+chain+buying+property+deed+restrictions https://www.google.com/search?q=supermarket+chain+buying+pro... Next time when your personal incredulity finds something unbelievable, instead of assuming you must be right and the other person is wrong, just try a simple google search. In my area property is constrained and in high demand so deed restrictions that only block one industry don't inhibit sales much. Our population is not "super low"; our county has a third of the population of the largest city in our region of the US. > people can buy real cheap at farmer markets where they just sell direct Just because I said "rural" doesn't mean there's farmland.