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>How so? Because you weren't having a conversation with someone trying to convince them of anything, you jumped in to police the speech of someone expressing t

>How so? Because you weren't having a conversation with someone trying to convince them of anything, you jumped in to police the speech of someone expressing their frustration with the state of their nation. >When you talk down to people, tell them that they are uncivilized, and call them stupid or “deplorable” they’ll sink the entire ship and take themselves down with you just to spite you. And if you go around pissing off the people who are trying to achieve the same goals as you, they'll stop putting in any effort.

ericmay 5y ago
> Because you weren't having a conversation with someone trying to convince them of anything, you jumped in to police the speech of someone expressing their frustration with the state of their nation. So they were having a conversation and I’m not? I don’t really get your point. > And if you go around pissing off the people who are trying to achieve the same goals as you, they'll stop putting in any effort. …sure ok. I guess if they’re going to talk down to people and call them uncivilized then I’ll stop supporting the goal too. Everyone wins.
- Talanes 5y ago
  >So they were having a conversation and I’m not? I don’t really get your point. My point is there is a major contextual difference between someone entering a conversation between you and a third party to say rude things about the third party and someone making general statements in a public forum and you jumping in on behalf of a theoretical third party who may not actually be offended.
  - ericmay 5y ago
    Didn't realize I can't comment on someone addressing a 3rd-party (is it 3rd-party?) in a condescending way as a less optimal way of getting that 3rd-party onboard with your ideas. If that's difficult for you I don't think there is much to discuss here because it seems pretty clear to me and I don't want to waste your time or anything out of respect.

ericmay 5y ago

> Because you weren't having a conversation with someone trying to convince them of anything, you jumped in to police the speech of someone expressing their frustration with the state of their nation. So they were having a conversation and I’m not? I don’t really get your point. > And if you go around pissing off the people who are trying to achieve the same goals as you, they'll stop putting in any effort. …sure ok. I guess if they’re going to talk down to people and call them uncivilized then I’ll stop supporting the goal too. Everyone wins.

Talanes 5y ago
>So they were having a conversation and I’m not? I don’t really get your point. My point is there is a major contextual difference between someone entering a conversation between you and a third party to say rude things about the third party and someone making general statements in a public forum and you jumping in on behalf of a theoretical third party who may not actually be offended.
- ericmay 5y ago
  Didn't realize I can't comment on someone addressing a 3rd-party (is it 3rd-party?) in a condescending way as a less optimal way of getting that 3rd-party onboard with your ideas. If that's difficult for you I don't think there is much to discuss here because it seems pretty clear to me and I don't want to waste your time or anything out of respect.