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Do you remember where you read that? Really curious! Love me some drama.

by xeromal 5y ago

whalesalad 5y ago
It’s referenced in the article.
- striking 5y ago
  When you say that, do you mean the part that reads > Online speculation that Southwest’s new vaccine mandate has led pilots to stage a sickout is being denied by the union representing Southwest pilots.
  - TMWNN 5y ago
    To me, >That follows reporting on social media that some of the issues the airline is suffering could be related to that issue. A spokesperson for the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA) told the Arizona Republic it was not aware of any work stoppage and wouldn’t condone it anyway. >SWAPA, however, has authorized its members to demonstrate against the mandate. sounds like there is a vaccine mandate-related sickout going on, but it's officially unofficial. I don't know why that would be the case; there's no law against airline pilots doing such. Maybe the union doesn't want to be denounced for being allegedly "anti-science"?
  - rdtwo 5y ago
    Vaccines sickout would be a great misdirection for any company suffering an outage or internal failure. I haven’t actually heard of many of any effects ones though
    - OldHand2018 5y ago
      Right, but unfortunately it leads to asking the most obvious question: Why are Southwest flight crews anti-vax when all the other airline flight crews are not? That's dumb, and it makes no sense. But if it did, then everyone would want to know what the hell is wrong with the people at Southwest. Since it's not, the question is what the hell is wrong with the systems at Southwest.
malwarebytess 5y ago
It's just a baseless rumor as far as I can see. SW says there's a staffing problem at "one location in florida," and blames weather otherwise. Meanwhile at least the SW pilot's union says "our pilots are not participating in any official or unofficial job actions." Union goes on to say the disruption is because of SW's "bad management." Given that the people who are ostensibly striking have yet to say anything, I think that no one is striking or walking out. edit: this is as close to a source as I've seen for the claim that there's striking workers: https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1447259256001019906 https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1447259256001019906
- wtallis 5y ago
  The alleged staffing problem was with air traffic control, not Southwest employees.
  - bhk 5y ago
    FAA says "it's not us"! (Except for a few hours on Friday.) https://twitter.com/FAANews/status/1447358177935245315 https://twitter.com/FAANews/status/1447358177935245315 And it does seem to be Southwest-specific: https://flightaware.com/live/cancelled/ https://flightaware.com/live/cancelled/ SWA is my favorite airline, but their story doesn't add up here.
- cratermoon 5y ago
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  - malwarebytess 5y ago
    My take on it. If it was a strike I think we'd hear about it in more definitive terms than rumor. That's the point of a strike, disruption and attention.
    - proc0 5y ago
      So everyone just got sick?
alexlitov 5y ago
Don't need to read too far into it as none of the other US based airlines didn't have any weather or FAA related issues over the weekend.
- deleted 5y ago
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- plazmatic 5y ago
  Wrong. They're all having similar issues. Flights cancelled constantly. It's a mess.

Do you remember where you read that? Really curious! Love me some drama.

whalesalad 5y ago

It’s referenced in the article.

striking 5y ago
When you say that, do you mean the part that reads > Online speculation that Southwest’s new vaccine mandate has led pilots to stage a sickout is being denied by the union representing Southwest pilots.
- TMWNN 5y ago
  To me, >That follows reporting on social media that some of the issues the airline is suffering could be related to that issue. A spokesperson for the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA) told the Arizona Republic it was not aware of any work stoppage and wouldn’t condone it anyway. >SWAPA, however, has authorized its members to demonstrate against the mandate. sounds like there is a vaccine mandate-related sickout going on, but it's officially unofficial. I don't know why that would be the case; there's no law against airline pilots doing such. Maybe the union doesn't want to be denounced for being allegedly "anti-science"?
- rdtwo 5y ago
  Vaccines sickout would be a great misdirection for any company suffering an outage or internal failure. I haven’t actually heard of many of any effects ones though
  - OldHand2018 5y ago
    Right, but unfortunately it leads to asking the most obvious question: Why are Southwest flight crews anti-vax when all the other airline flight crews are not? That's dumb, and it makes no sense. But if it did, then everyone would want to know what the hell is wrong with the people at Southwest. Since it's not, the question is what the hell is wrong with the systems at Southwest.

malwarebytess 5y ago

It's just a baseless rumor as far as I can see. SW says there's a staffing problem at "one location in florida," and blames weather otherwise. Meanwhile at least the SW pilot's union says "our pilots are not participating in any official or unofficial job actions." Union goes on to say the disruption is because of SW's "bad management." Given that the people who are ostensibly striking have yet to say anything, I think that no one is striking or walking out. edit: this is as close to a source as I've seen for the claim that there's striking workers: https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1447259256001019906 https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1447259256001019906

wtallis 5y ago
The alleged staffing problem was with air traffic control, not Southwest employees.
- bhk 5y ago
  FAA says "it's not us"! (Except for a few hours on Friday.) https://twitter.com/FAANews/status/1447358177935245315 https://twitter.com/FAANews/status/1447358177935245315 And it does seem to be Southwest-specific: https://flightaware.com/live/cancelled/ https://flightaware.com/live/cancelled/ SWA is my favorite airline, but their story doesn't add up here.
cratermoon 5y ago
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- malwarebytess 5y ago
  My take on it. If it was a strike I think we'd hear about it in more definitive terms than rumor. That's the point of a strike, disruption and attention.
  - proc0 5y ago
    So everyone just got sick?

alexlitov 5y ago

Don't need to read too far into it as none of the other US based airlines didn't have any weather or FAA related issues over the weekend.

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plazmatic 5y ago
Wrong. They're all having similar issues. Flights cancelled constantly. It's a mess.