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This isn't true at all. Some of the worst school districts in the country spend the most on a per student basis. Spending is not correlated with educational o

This isn't true at all. Some of the worst school districts in the country spend the most on a per student basis. Spending is not correlated with educational outcomes. Baltimore City for example spends like 18k per student and has very poor outcomes. Private school tuition on average only costs like 13k per year per student in Maryland.

eesmith 5y ago
https://www.baltimorecityschools.org/setting-the-record-straight https://www.baltimorecityschools.org/setting-the-record-stra... under "March 9, 2021"/"We do not have the 4th highest per pupil spending in the US" points out: > There are more than 13,000 school districts in the nation; Baltimore ranks at about 2,400 in per-pupil spending in the overall group. ... > Baltimore’s spending is comparable to other Maryland districts but falls short of adequacy when factoring in the composition of the district’s student population ... > o Baltimore has the highest concentrations of students in poverty and the highest percentage of students with disabilities in the state. > o By the state’s own analysis, City Schools should have received $290 million more each year under the current formula. > o A state-commissioned report indicates the district needs $358 million more to ensure adequacy for the city’s students. On average, disabled students cost more to educate than non-disabled. Without knowing the distribution of students types in Baltimore City vs. private schools, a simple head-to-head comparison is meaningless. Finally, you didn't give a simple head-to-head comparison. You compared costs for the public school (funding / number of students) with tuition (funding by students). Private schools may also receive funding through other means, eg, state-funded scholarships, or subsidized use of public resources like land and buildings.
- pmorici 5y ago
  Can you cite any study that shows that educational outcomes are positively correlated with spending even after adjusting for disabilities?
  - eesmith 5y ago
    No. I'm not an education policy wonk. (Plus, I don't see how the answer is not "yes". If we pay enough for a 1:5 teacher:student ratio then we'll almost certainly get better educational outcomes, yes? Which means I don't understand your question.) I'm only pointing out what I believe are large methodological weaknesses in your earlier comment.

eesmith 5y ago

https://www.baltimorecityschools.org/setting-the-record-straight https://www.baltimorecityschools.org/setting-the-record-stra... under "March 9, 2021"/"We do not have the 4th highest per pupil spending in the US" points out: > There are more than 13,000 school districts in the nation; Baltimore ranks at about 2,400 in per-pupil spending in the overall group. ... > Baltimore’s spending is comparable to other Maryland districts but falls short of adequacy when factoring in the composition of the district’s student population ... > o Baltimore has the highest concentrations of students in poverty and the highest percentage of students with disabilities in the state. > o By the state’s own analysis, City Schools should have received $290 million more each year under the current formula. > o A state-commissioned report indicates the district needs $358 million more to ensure adequacy for the city’s students. On average, disabled students cost more to educate than non-disabled. Without knowing the distribution of students types in Baltimore City vs. private schools, a simple head-to-head comparison is meaningless. Finally, you didn't give a simple head-to-head comparison. You compared costs for the public school (funding / number of students) with tuition (funding by students). Private schools may also receive funding through other means, eg, state-funded scholarships, or subsidized use of public resources like land and buildings.

pmorici 5y ago
Can you cite any study that shows that educational outcomes are positively correlated with spending even after adjusting for disabilities?
- eesmith 5y ago
  No. I'm not an education policy wonk. (Plus, I don't see how the answer is not "yes". If we pay enough for a 1:5 teacher:student ratio then we'll almost certainly get better educational outcomes, yes? Which means I don't understand your question.) I'm only pointing out what I believe are large methodological weaknesses in your earlier comment.