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Even if the risk of getting caught were low, for France (if it actually was France), the strategic risk of stealing the US nuclear subs' secrets is astronomical
by xxpor 5y ago
Even if the risk of getting caught were low, for France (if it actually was France), the strategic risk of stealing the US nuclear subs' secrets is astronomical. Why in the world would they take that risk?
- detaro 5y agoyeah, for nominal allies like France that calculus looks way shifted.
- WastingMyTime89 5y ago> the strategic risk of stealing the US nuclear subs' secrets is astronomical The risk is none. What is going to happen exactly? France probably routinely try to steal military secrets from the USA. That's business as usual for modern countries. The USA spies on all its allies. There was a minor scandal at the beginning of the year because it leaked that Denmark helped them spy on Germany.
- xxpor 5y agoThe risk is asymmetric. France relies on the US for defense. The US does not rely on France. Therefore, it's unsurprising when the US spies on France (or Germany or other NATO ally).
- WastingMyTime89 5y ago> France relies on the US for defense. They mostly rely on their nukes, their nuclear submarines and their army and their extensive diplomatic ties. France has some moderate capacity of projection. They would be fine defending themselves. Eastern Europe relies on the USA for its protection, Germany somewhat does but actually would likely be fine without, France does not. That’s why they can say NATO is brain dead and push for more strategic autonomy in the EU. And what will the USA do anyway. Withdraw their support because they are spied upon? What would they stand to gain from that?