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How come tankers seem to have loose lips? Haven't heard of similar leaks in World of Warships or DCS. Planes/Ships/Subs have more opsec because more important?

shakow 5y ago
This (https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/15/18623545/eagle-dynamics-f-16-manual-conspiracy-smuggling-russia https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/15/18623545/eagle-dynamics-f-...) happened w.r.t. DCS, and the most recent stuff in WoW is late WWII, s if something was to be revealed, it would interest military historians more than intel agencies :)
- dirtyid 5y ago
  Is there a naval game with modern hardware? I remember watching a multiplayer game on Twitch with SSNs and modern carriers. I feel like these communities are probably good places to bait active service people for classified info. Every once in a while on defense forums, there's deleted posts and reminders not to reveal capabilities indicating there's definitely folks out there eager to talk.
  - duskwuff 5y ago
    It wouldn't make for a very exciting or visually impressive game. Much of modern naval warfare is conducted at long range, sometimes even beyond the horizon. You don't see many submarine warfare simulators either, for essentially the same reason.
  - post_from_work 5y ago
    >>>Is there a naval game with modern hardware? Command: Modern Operations is your best bet. It's a $70 game. They sell the "Professional Edition" to the military for $20,000 per license. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1076160/Command_Modern_Operations/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1076160/Command_Modern_Op... https://pro.matrixgames.com/game/command-professional-edition https://pro.matrixgames.com/game/command-professional-editio...
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    War Thunder has some more modern units.
- trasz 5y ago
  In the DCS case there's no sign of anything secret there - looks like the manuals were public, the charges were about ITAR.
newsclues 5y ago
Cheaper and more plentiful weapons systems will have more people (jr) working on them.
Kuinox 5y ago
War Thunder is more realist than WoT, so people will want even more realism.
karagenit 5y ago
Could just be a numbers game, e.g. the US has built about 10,000 M1 Abrams tanks in the last 40 years but only about 1,000 F-15s in the same time period.
dragontamer 5y ago
Tanks are cheaper and are run by only 4 people. This means that a tank squad is basically expected to know all of the attributes of their tank. That's not the case for other vehicles: no one person understands a Nimitz carrier from top to bottom.
kakwa_ 5y ago
World of Warships is at most 50ies tech. I think the most recent ship in game is Colbert, a French AA cruiser commissioned in 1959. And in game, she doesn't feature her missile conversion in the 70ies. Plus most of the "high tier" designs are paper ships with a varying level of fantasy from the game devs. Lastly the game is far from a simulation, it's extremely arcady.

shakow 5y ago

This (https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/15/18623545/eagle-dynamics-f-16-manual-conspiracy-smuggling-russia https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/15/18623545/eagle-dynamics-f-...) happened w.r.t. DCS, and the most recent stuff in WoW is late WWII, s if something was to be revealed, it would interest military historians more than intel agencies :)

dirtyid 5y ago
Is there a naval game with modern hardware? I remember watching a multiplayer game on Twitch with SSNs and modern carriers. I feel like these communities are probably good places to bait active service people for classified info. Every once in a while on defense forums, there's deleted posts and reminders not to reveal capabilities indicating there's definitely folks out there eager to talk.
- duskwuff 5y ago
  It wouldn't make for a very exciting or visually impressive game. Much of modern naval warfare is conducted at long range, sometimes even beyond the horizon. You don't see many submarine warfare simulators either, for essentially the same reason.
- post_from_work 5y ago
  >>>Is there a naval game with modern hardware? Command: Modern Operations is your best bet. It's a $70 game. They sell the "Professional Edition" to the military for $20,000 per license. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1076160/Command_Modern_Operations/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1076160/Command_Modern_Op... https://pro.matrixgames.com/game/command-professional-edition https://pro.matrixgames.com/game/command-professional-editio...
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  War Thunder has some more modern units.
trasz 5y ago
In the DCS case there's no sign of anything secret there - looks like the manuals were public, the charges were about ITAR.

newsclues 5y ago

Cheaper and more plentiful weapons systems will have more people (jr) working on them.

Kuinox 5y ago

War Thunder is more realist than WoT, so people will want even more realism.

karagenit 5y ago

Could just be a numbers game, e.g. the US has built about 10,000 M1 Abrams tanks in the last 40 years but only about 1,000 F-15s in the same time period.

dragontamer 5y ago

Tanks are cheaper and are run by only 4 people. This means that a tank squad is basically expected to know all of the attributes of their tank. That's not the case for other vehicles: no one person understands a Nimitz carrier from top to bottom.

kakwa_ 5y ago

World of Warships is at most 50ies tech. I think the most recent ship in game is Colbert, a French AA cruiser commissioned in 1959. And in game, she doesn't feature her missile conversion in the 70ies. Plus most of the "high tier" designs are paper ships with a varying level of fantasy from the game devs. Lastly the game is far from a simulation, it's extremely arcady.