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As always, all languages, especially the new one, should have a "why" section. Small caveat: maybe it's still under construction and the person that posted it j

by Zababa 5y ago

As always, all languages, especially the new one, should have a "why" section. Small caveat: maybe it's still under construction and the person that posted it just found it too early. But once you're ready to show it to the world, please include the why! Note that anything is valid in the "why", even "just for fun" or "because I could". For now there is: > Senegal is a powerful, small-but-fast, concurrent, class-based, and dynamically-typed programming language with a modern syntax. I think the closest thing to it is Wren? https://wren.io/ https://wren.io/. The difference being that Senegal is compiled and Wren is interpreted. A few things of interest: - there are exceptions - you can call some C code: https://lang-senegal.web.app/docs/cimport https://lang-senegal.web.app/docs/cimport - you can "enhance" (monkey patch?) classes: https://lang-senegal.web.app/docs/enhance https://lang-senegal.web.app/docs/enhance - classic C-style for, while, switch keywords - there's a pipeline operator, but it's <| https://lang-senegal.web.app/docs/pipeline https://lang-senegal.web.app/docs/pipeline - the reference to "switch statements" probably means that switch and if are statements, not expressions

1MachineElf 5y ago
Support for Windows, MacOS, and Linux is also a plus.
pansa2 5y ago
> Senegal is compiled and Wren is interpreted Senegal seems to use a bytecode interpreter: https://github.com/SenegalLang/Senegal/blob/22fe863ad234e43ab25a5328bf8e6bd6a189331b/src/svm.c#L1531 https://github.com/SenegalLang/Senegal/blob/22fe863ad234e43a...
- zeckalpha 5y ago
  So does Wren!
- Zababa 5y ago
  I'm curious about what they mean by "Fast single-pass compiler". Maybe it's the compiler to bytecode?
  - pansa2 5y ago
    Almost certainly. Lua’s source => bytecode compiler also fits that description.
cageface 5y ago
Also picking a name that can easily and unambiguously searched on is a big plus.
- Zababa 5y ago
  That's true, though many languages don't respect that (Go, Java, Rust).
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - jmnicolas 5y ago
    Rust and especially Go have no excuse. Java is old enough that "SEO" wasn't much a priority back then.
  - scriptproof 5y ago
    Add Python, Dart, Julia, Eiffel, Pascal...
    - julienpalard 5y ago
      Add ABC, B, C, D, C++, F#, C#, ...
  - shagmin 5y ago
    I always just search for golang, rustlang, etc.,.
  - V-2 5y ago
    When Java was created, this wasn't a factor to consider yet
c014b6ec5be9 5y ago
Surely this is the responsibility of the person posting this on HN, not the person who put the code on github. The owner of this repo owes absolutely nothing to random commenters on HN.
- Zababa 5y ago
  As I've said: > maybe it's still under construction and the person that posted it just found it too early. But once you're ready to show it to the world, please include the why! So I don't think we disagree here. > The owner of this repo owes absolutely nothing to random commenters on HN. It's not about "owing" anything to anyone, it's about giving useful feedback. If the language has no way to do IO, and nowhere it says that it's a feature, I would have included the lack of IO in my feedback. The author is free to ignore my feedback, just like I'm free to give constructive feedback.

by Zababa 5y ago

1MachineElf 5y ago

Support for Windows, MacOS, and Linux is also a plus.

pansa2 5y ago

> Senegal is compiled and Wren is interpreted Senegal seems to use a bytecode interpreter: https://github.com/SenegalLang/Senegal/blob/22fe863ad234e43ab25a5328bf8e6bd6a189331b/src/svm.c#L1531 https://github.com/SenegalLang/Senegal/blob/22fe863ad234e43a...

zeckalpha 5y ago
So does Wren!
Zababa 5y ago
I'm curious about what they mean by "Fast single-pass compiler". Maybe it's the compiler to bytecode?
- pansa2 5y ago
  Almost certainly. Lua’s source => bytecode compiler also fits that description.

cageface 5y ago

Also picking a name that can easily and unambiguously searched on is a big plus.

Zababa 5y ago
That's true, though many languages don't respect that (Go, Java, Rust).
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- jmnicolas 5y ago
  Rust and especially Go have no excuse. Java is old enough that "SEO" wasn't much a priority back then.
- scriptproof 5y ago
  Add Python, Dart, Julia, Eiffel, Pascal...
  - julienpalard 5y ago
    Add ABC, B, C, D, C++, F#, C#, ...
- shagmin 5y ago
  I always just search for golang, rustlang, etc.,.
- V-2 5y ago
  When Java was created, this wasn't a factor to consider yet

c014b6ec5be9 5y ago

Surely this is the responsibility of the person posting this on HN, not the person who put the code on github. The owner of this repo owes absolutely nothing to random commenters on HN.

Zababa 5y ago
As I've said: > maybe it's still under construction and the person that posted it just found it too early. But once you're ready to show it to the world, please include the why! So I don't think we disagree here. > The owner of this repo owes absolutely nothing to random commenters on HN. It's not about "owing" anything to anyone, it's about giving useful feedback. If the language has no way to do IO, and nowhere it says that it's a feature, I would have included the lack of IO in my feedback. The author is free to ignore my feedback, just like I'm free to give constructive feedback.