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What is this naming? Embarrassing levels of bad "Adoptium Eclipse Temurin OpenJDK "

shagie 5y ago
Adoption is the project umbrella under the Eclipse Foundation. Temurin is the project. OpenJDK is the artifact. https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/adoptium https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/adoptium > The mission of the Eclipse Adoptium Top-Level Project is to produce high-quality runtimes and associated technology for use within the Java ecosystem. We achieve this through a set of Projects under the Adoptium PMC and a close working partnership with external projects, most notably OpenJDK for providing the Java SE runtime implementation. Our goal is to meet the needs of both the Eclipse community and broader runtime users by providing a comprehensive set of technologies around runtimes for Java applications that operate alongside existing standards, infrastructures, and cloud platforms. Under Adoption, there is: * Eclipse Adoption Incubator * Eclipse AQAvit * Eclipse Mission Control * Eclipse Temurin Compliance * Eclipse Temurin But yea... the name is awkward.
- smarx007 5y ago
  https://adoptium.net/ https://adoptium.net/ "Eclipse Temurin is the name of the OpenJDK distribution from Adoptium." Eclipse Temurin 17 or Temurin JDK 17 should be sufficient.
- tinus_hn 5y ago
  I wonder how good the adoption is for that product. Didn’t they adopt a new name recently?
- easton 5y ago
  It sounds like something Microsoft would come up with. Well, it's missing a "NT Azure Client Access License". Why didn't they just keep AdoptOpenJDK? That was a good name IMO.
  - shagie 5y ago
    From https://developer.ibm.com/announcements/adoptopenjdk-has-a-new-home-and-name/ https://developer.ibm.com/announcements/adoptopenjdk-has-a-n... (Eclipse is sponsored by IBM)... > Along with the move to the Eclipse Foundation, the project has a new name: Eclipse Adoptium. The move and name change are being made to ensure vendor independence and long-term viability of the project. As you know, the Eclipse Foundation has a number of key projects, such as Jakarta EE, under its umbrella, with the foundation providing the necessary legal and operational support for its projects. I suspect that part of this is that it has more to it than just the JDK.
    - agibsonccc 5y ago
      Disclaimer: I am involved with the eclipse foundation (not as part of the core staff) Hi, I just want to expand on this a bit... The "eclipse foundation" is actually not just sponsored by IBM. Nor is the IDE. As for what support it provides, that's actually spot on and is under a similar idea to what apache and linux provide. There are of course differences: but for most people the vague idea that open source foundations exist and provide some similar functions as a way to host projects is enough for this discussion A lot of eclipse's revenue actually comes from working groups with Jakarta EE being the biggest one. There are also IOT, Automotive and many other working groups + projects under the eclipse umbrella.

Adoption is the project umbrella under the Eclipse Foundation. Temurin is the project. OpenJDK is the artifact. https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/adoptium https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/adoptium > The mission of the Eclipse Adoptium Top-Level Project is to produce high-quality runtimes and associated technology for use within the Java ecosystem. We achieve this through a set of Projects under the Adoptium PMC and a close working partnership with external projects, most notably OpenJDK for providing the Java SE runtime implementation. Our goal is to meet the needs of both the Eclipse community and broader runtime users by providing a comprehensive set of technologies around runtimes for Java applications that operate alongside existing standards, infrastructures, and cloud platforms. Under Adoption, there is: * Eclipse Adoption Incubator * Eclipse AQAvit * Eclipse Mission Control * Eclipse Temurin Compliance * Eclipse Temurin But yea... the name is awkward.

smarx007 5y ago
https://adoptium.net/ https://adoptium.net/ "Eclipse Temurin is the name of the OpenJDK distribution from Adoptium." Eclipse Temurin 17 or Temurin JDK 17 should be sufficient.
tinus_hn 5y ago
I wonder how good the adoption is for that product. Didn’t they adopt a new name recently?
easton 5y ago
It sounds like something Microsoft would come up with. Well, it's missing a "NT Azure Client Access License". Why didn't they just keep AdoptOpenJDK? That was a good name IMO.
- shagie 5y ago
  From https://developer.ibm.com/announcements/adoptopenjdk-has-a-new-home-and-name/ https://developer.ibm.com/announcements/adoptopenjdk-has-a-n... (Eclipse is sponsored by IBM)... > Along with the move to the Eclipse Foundation, the project has a new name: Eclipse Adoptium. The move and name change are being made to ensure vendor independence and long-term viability of the project. As you know, the Eclipse Foundation has a number of key projects, such as Jakarta EE, under its umbrella, with the foundation providing the necessary legal and operational support for its projects. I suspect that part of this is that it has more to it than just the JDK.
  - agibsonccc 5y ago
    Disclaimer: I am involved with the eclipse foundation (not as part of the core staff) Hi, I just want to expand on this a bit... The "eclipse foundation" is actually not just sponsored by IBM. Nor is the IDE. As for what support it provides, that's actually spot on and is under a similar idea to what apache and linux provide. There are of course differences: but for most people the vague idea that open source foundations exist and provide some similar functions as a way to host projects is enough for this discussion A lot of eclipse's revenue actually comes from working groups with Jakarta EE being the biggest one. There are also IOT, Automotive and many other working groups + projects under the eclipse umbrella.