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Totally second this but on a different ground. It's simply the noise it makes. Many people have been left trapped at home, working remotely as a result of Covi

Totally second this but on a different ground. It's simply the noise it makes. Many people have been left trapped at home, working remotely as a result of Covid. A noisy machine, such as a gas-powered leaf blower, can disrupt a peaceful neighborhood day. Imagine your neighbor to your left mowing the lawn at 8 a.m., then neighbor to your right at 9 a.m., then another cross the street started at 10 a.m., and on and on.. It made our already dismal lockdown, stay-at-home life even more despised! We are in dire need of much quieter neighborhood leaf blower.

AlbertCory 5y ago
Addendum: also need to ban children playing outside. They make so much damned noise.
- chenster 5y ago
  sure, if they only make as much as what the leaf blowers make!
  - asdff 5y ago
    If they are under 10 years old and play outside they certainly do!
- mdp2021 5y ago
  So, quantitative definition: noise from X, benefit, social context (responsibility) and avoidability of X, for each X - children, blowers, dogs, stereos... I do not see the discrimination too difficult. What can be avoided, what should be avoided, what should be replaced, what should be regulated...
- Ekaros 5y ago
  And maybe drugs too. The drugged up people during weekends are massive nuisance in cities, yelling and being violent at streets. Really we should close down all bars and bring back prohibition...
  - mdp2021 5y ago
    What about education, which should make such behaviour evidently inappropriate, and policing, so that that the yellers - "Oh! Sorry you broke a fully legitimate and reasonable law" - and violent - "Oh! Another"... Some people seemingly like living in anarchy. Which may seem "nice" until it tramples you. There is no need to close the bars. There has always been a need to correct bothersome and damaging behaviour, obviously, even when we keep experiences open. Ever heard of moderation? Self control? The appellative of 'Mister' (master over what)? Of the values of consciousness and awareness?
zbuf 5y ago
I'm a wildly optimistic person; could you suggest all your neighbours (including yourself) do these jobs at the same time? A sort of "preferred noise hour" for machinery. Even if its not a hard and fast rule, I'd hope most people would see the point and in turn enjoy the benefit in a world where many want the option to work remotely.
- flycaliguy 5y ago
  Attempts at rules like that often excite the local shit disturbers. They always own generators.
mdp2021 5y ago
> in dire need of much quieter neighborhood leaf blower It's called a broom. In general, to the other contributions which could have been sarcastic: noise is harmful. Many people do not even perceive it, but that is because numbness has become a value (though perception is) - and numbness will reveal its non-efficacy as an armour the moment one's nerves will be worn out enough. I will repeat: noise is something some people sneer at - until they break. So, there has to be a proportionate justification to be noisy. «The day will come when man will have to fight noise as inexorably as cholera and the plague» ~~ Robert Koch

AlbertCory 5y ago

Addendum: also need to ban children playing outside. They make so much damned noise.

chenster 5y ago
sure, if they only make as much as what the leaf blowers make!
- asdff 5y ago
  If they are under 10 years old and play outside they certainly do!
mdp2021 5y ago
So, quantitative definition: noise from X, benefit, social context (responsibility) and avoidability of X, for each X - children, blowers, dogs, stereos... I do not see the discrimination too difficult. What can be avoided, what should be avoided, what should be replaced, what should be regulated...
Ekaros 5y ago
And maybe drugs too. The drugged up people during weekends are massive nuisance in cities, yelling and being violent at streets. Really we should close down all bars and bring back prohibition...
- mdp2021 5y ago
  What about education, which should make such behaviour evidently inappropriate, and policing, so that that the yellers - "Oh! Sorry you broke a fully legitimate and reasonable law" - and violent - "Oh! Another"... Some people seemingly like living in anarchy. Which may seem "nice" until it tramples you. There is no need to close the bars. There has always been a need to correct bothersome and damaging behaviour, obviously, even when we keep experiences open. Ever heard of moderation? Self control? The appellative of 'Mister' (master over what)? Of the values of consciousness and awareness?

zbuf 5y ago

I'm a wildly optimistic person; could you suggest all your neighbours (including yourself) do these jobs at the same time? A sort of "preferred noise hour" for machinery. Even if its not a hard and fast rule, I'd hope most people would see the point and in turn enjoy the benefit in a world where many want the option to work remotely.

flycaliguy 5y ago
Attempts at rules like that often excite the local shit disturbers. They always own generators.

mdp2021 5y ago

> in dire need of much quieter neighborhood leaf blower It's called a broom. In general, to the other contributions which could have been sarcastic: noise is harmful. Many people do not even perceive it, but that is because numbness has become a value (though perception is) - and numbness will reveal its non-efficacy as an armour the moment one's nerves will be worn out enough. I will repeat: noise is something some people sneer at - until they break. So, there has to be a proportionate justification to be noisy. «The day will come when man will have to fight noise as inexorably as cholera and the plague» ~~ Robert Koch