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The micro-soldering and what I assume must be custom (or very small batch) cabling is very impressive, but beyond that: Apple has embedded verification in their

The micro-soldering and what I assume must be custom (or very small batch) cabling is very impressive, but beyond that: Apple has embedded verification in their hardware from the batteries to (if I understand correctly) the screen itself. The fact that this is even possible without big warning signs throughout the OS is what I'm weirded out by. I legitimately wish I could just be amazed at the soldering, machining, and dedication. But having to include "Bypassed un-disable-able [0] hardware verification on your own device" makes it all seem a touch more dystopian. [0] Note that HW verification could (and in some cases does) serve the user. But being unable to bypass it on one's own device doesn't quite sit well with me.

tinus_hn 5y ago
You know that tiny micro usb to lightning adapters are available in stores, right? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images2000x2000/apple_md820am_a_lightning_to_micro_usb_1139479.jpg https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images2000x2000/apple_md... Why would it be hard to adapt this into usb-c to lightning conversion?
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  usb-c to lightning adapters are against the spec. I've still tried cheapest one off fleabay and it didn't work at all.
  - tinus_hn 5y ago
    Against what spec? There are adapters that come with the ‘made for iPhone’ logo.
lozenge 5y ago
People have always been able to connect an iPhone to arbitrary devices through a cable, the security is that it only speaks certain protocols and prompts the user if something more than charging or headphone out is requested.
mkr-hn 5y ago
The trouble is providing a way to bypass security by the user that can tell a user apart from someone who shouldn't be allowed in. Somehow they've bypassed it without such a mechanism. Putting a way in on purpose opens any security on that pathway to implementation exploits.

tinus_hn 5y ago

You know that tiny micro usb to lightning adapters are available in stores, right? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images2000x2000/apple_md820am_a_lightning_to_micro_usb_1139479.jpg https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images2000x2000/apple_md... Why would it be hard to adapt this into usb-c to lightning conversion?

dzhiurgis 5y ago
usb-c to lightning adapters are against the spec. I've still tried cheapest one off fleabay and it didn't work at all.
- tinus_hn 5y ago
  Against what spec? There are adapters that come with the ‘made for iPhone’ logo.

lozenge 5y ago

People have always been able to connect an iPhone to arbitrary devices through a cable, the security is that it only speaks certain protocols and prompts the user if something more than charging or headphone out is requested.

mkr-hn 5y ago

The trouble is providing a way to bypass security by the user that can tell a user apart from someone who shouldn't be allowed in. Somehow they've bypassed it without such a mechanism. Putting a way in on purpose opens any security on that pathway to implementation exploits.