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It's likely a false positive. We have no interest in trying to block it based on content. (I work on network security/integrity, including terrestrial and subs

by jauer 5y ago

It's likely a false positive. We have no interest in trying to block it based on content. (I work on network security/integrity, including terrestrial and subsea optical, at aforementioned company).

kelsolaar 5y ago
How one can tell FB that this might be a false-positive though?
- nerbert 5y ago
  That’s the beauty of it: you can’t.
  - peakaboo 5y ago
    Facebook doesn't listen to us peasants anyway, just like Google and the other mafia giants.
    - bigiain 5y ago
      Yep. The right (but useless) answer here is “Have a million dollar per month advertising spend, and talk to your account manager.”
    - rurban 5y ago
      Mafia? Simply intelligence. Both are criminal orgs above the law though
- lrem 5y ago
  As always with reaching megacorps: any official channel would be hopelessly flooded with spam, so your only hope is to reach an employee through alternative means. Usually a sufficienlty large Titter storm is the most robust way. But, as illustrated here, luck can be had on any social network.
lmilcin 5y ago
I am sorry if you feel offended, probably undeservedly, but understand that I heard a lot of explanations from the aforementioned company and those explanation usually turn out to be lies. It makes it difficult for me to trust anything from the aforementioned company without some more substantial proof. You know the story Jack and the Wolf? I looked at electrospaces website and I just can't figure out what cause it to be classified as "spam". Please, don't tell me it is AI because it has become so easy and convenient to avoid any responsibility by just saying "AI did it, not us".
- jauer 5y ago
  I won't carry any water for aforementioned company's explanations, "AI did it" or not. Speaking generally, spam detection (even in email) often has as much to do with the behavior of whoever is trying to send a message as it does the content. I _suspect_ that a group of people were spamming it as evidence for their conspiracy theories and enough people reported the messages that it got added to a filter. Same thing happens with domains used for phishing (Google Safe Browsing), email spam filters, or other things. Anyway, I'm not offended. I'm surprised that people here, upon hearing hoofbeats (spam), thought zebras (conspiracy to suppress information) instead of horses (spam filter false positive). I'm sure someone will look into why electrospaces was marked as spam on Monday...
  - lmilcin 5y ago
    It may well be false positive. But history of lies, suppression, lack of transparency and strangely convenient coincidences make people look for zebras first.

by jauer 5y ago

It's likely a false positive. We have no interest in trying to block it based on content. (I work on network security/integrity, including terrestrial and subsea optical, at aforementioned company).

kelsolaar 5y ago

How one can tell FB that this might be a false-positive though?

nerbert 5y ago
That’s the beauty of it: you can’t.
- peakaboo 5y ago
  Facebook doesn't listen to us peasants anyway, just like Google and the other mafia giants.
  - bigiain 5y ago
    Yep. The right (but useless) answer here is “Have a million dollar per month advertising spend, and talk to your account manager.”
  - rurban 5y ago
    Mafia? Simply intelligence. Both are criminal orgs above the law though
lrem 5y ago
As always with reaching megacorps: any official channel would be hopelessly flooded with spam, so your only hope is to reach an employee through alternative means. Usually a sufficienlty large Titter storm is the most robust way. But, as illustrated here, luck can be had on any social network.

lmilcin 5y ago

I am sorry if you feel offended, probably undeservedly, but understand that I heard a lot of explanations from the aforementioned company and those explanation usually turn out to be lies. It makes it difficult for me to trust anything from the aforementioned company without some more substantial proof. You know the story Jack and the Wolf? I looked at electrospaces website and I just can't figure out what cause it to be classified as "spam". Please, don't tell me it is AI because it has become so easy and convenient to avoid any responsibility by just saying "AI did it, not us".

jauer 5y ago
I won't carry any water for aforementioned company's explanations, "AI did it" or not. Speaking generally, spam detection (even in email) often has as much to do with the behavior of whoever is trying to send a message as it does the content. I _suspect_ that a group of people were spamming it as evidence for their conspiracy theories and enough people reported the messages that it got added to a filter. Same thing happens with domains used for phishing (Google Safe Browsing), email spam filters, or other things. Anyway, I'm not offended. I'm surprised that people here, upon hearing hoofbeats (spam), thought zebras (conspiracy to suppress information) instead of horses (spam filter false positive). I'm sure someone will look into why electrospaces was marked as spam on Monday...
- lmilcin 5y ago
  It may well be false positive. But history of lies, suppression, lack of transparency and strangely convenient coincidences make people look for zebras first.