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The government's actions I can understand. The courts decisions based on 'unprecedence' events is troublesome. It creates a low barrier for the removal of any

by ipaddr 5y ago

The government's actions I can understand. The courts decisions based on 'unprecedence' events is troublesome. It creates a low barrier for the removal of any rights. An event will happen like this again.

roenxi 5y ago
Not to mention, these events are precdented. This is a 1:40 to 1:100 year pandemic; depending on how much of it has to do with modern airlines.
- Factorium 5y ago
  Try once a decade: https://swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/sweden-monthly-deaths-1851.jpg https://swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/sweden-monthly-...
xiphias2 5y ago
Removal of rights is one thing that is debatable. Not giving them back when the emergency has been gone and in developed countries everybody who wanted to get vaccinated got it is clearly an overstep.
- tinus_hn 5y ago
  Haven’t you seen the new excuse? The emergency isn’t over until everybody has gotten the required booster shots, and they are required indefinitely.
- rubyist5eva 5y ago
  When the government gives themselves power in an emergency, they most certainly are incentivized to keep finding new emergencies. Frankly, the checks and balances on our government have completely failed.
rubyist5eva 5y ago
Canadian citizens have freedom of movement in our constitution, it should not be contingent on getting an invasive medical procedure using a product from a foreign profit seeking pharmaceutical corporation.
- mthoms 5y ago
  The vast majority of Canadians would disagree with the characterization of simply getting a shot in the arm as an "invasive medical procedure". Please, stop the over dramatization. It's embarrassing. Children, babies and pets get needles all the time. It's literally a fact of modern life. You know what isn't a fact of modern life? Polio.
  - helloworld11 5y ago
    And guess what the blindingly obvious difference is for those children and babies that get their different vaccines? That it's fucking voluntary. It's a decision made by their parents or guardians based on their own health and risk criteria, with no authoritarian travel restrictions based on ambiguous science and apparent corporate cronyism thrown in on top of the situation. This is very different from what's being enforced now in Canada (and a number of other countries) for the COVID vaccines. That the government is blatantly doing this "for your own good" is revolting but unsurprising. That so many people who used to be proud of their country being a relatively free place applauding it is simply grotesque. If the excessive hysteria comes from anywhere, it's from regulatory bodies, politicians and supportive members of the public who are using this pandemic as an excuse for measures that most people would have flatly rejected in other circumstances. 99.4% of the population recovers from Covid normally, young people are barely touched by it compared to the mortality rates for so many other things, and despite the really vulnerable segments of the population being largely protected at this point, and having easy access to said protection, now no matter your age above 12, you're essentially forced to comply with something that no government should have a business of imposing like this. Piss off.
    - mthoms 5y ago
      Nothing you just said changes the fact that no-one, not-ever, considers a needle an "invasive medical procedure". It's silly. Good rant though. Complete with childish swearing even!

by ipaddr 5y ago

roenxi 5y ago

Not to mention, these events are precdented. This is a 1:40 to 1:100 year pandemic; depending on how much of it has to do with modern airlines.

Factorium 5y ago
Try once a decade: https://swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/sweden-monthly-deaths-1851.jpg https://swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/sweden-monthly-...

xiphias2 5y ago

Removal of rights is one thing that is debatable. Not giving them back when the emergency has been gone and in developed countries everybody who wanted to get vaccinated got it is clearly an overstep.

tinus_hn 5y ago
Haven’t you seen the new excuse? The emergency isn’t over until everybody has gotten the required booster shots, and they are required indefinitely.
rubyist5eva 5y ago
When the government gives themselves power in an emergency, they most certainly are incentivized to keep finding new emergencies. Frankly, the checks and balances on our government have completely failed.

rubyist5eva 5y ago

Canadian citizens have freedom of movement in our constitution, it should not be contingent on getting an invasive medical procedure using a product from a foreign profit seeking pharmaceutical corporation.

mthoms 5y ago
The vast majority of Canadians would disagree with the characterization of simply getting a shot in the arm as an "invasive medical procedure". Please, stop the over dramatization. It's embarrassing. Children, babies and pets get needles all the time. It's literally a fact of modern life. You know what isn't a fact of modern life? Polio.
- helloworld11 5y ago
  And guess what the blindingly obvious difference is for those children and babies that get their different vaccines? That it's fucking voluntary. It's a decision made by their parents or guardians based on their own health and risk criteria, with no authoritarian travel restrictions based on ambiguous science and apparent corporate cronyism thrown in on top of the situation. This is very different from what's being enforced now in Canada (and a number of other countries) for the COVID vaccines. That the government is blatantly doing this "for your own good" is revolting but unsurprising. That so many people who used to be proud of their country being a relatively free place applauding it is simply grotesque. If the excessive hysteria comes from anywhere, it's from regulatory bodies, politicians and supportive members of the public who are using this pandemic as an excuse for measures that most people would have flatly rejected in other circumstances. 99.4% of the population recovers from Covid normally, young people are barely touched by it compared to the mortality rates for so many other things, and despite the really vulnerable segments of the population being largely protected at this point, and having easy access to said protection, now no matter your age above 12, you're essentially forced to comply with something that no government should have a business of imposing like this. Piss off.
  - mthoms 5y ago
    Nothing you just said changes the fact that no-one, not-ever, considers a needle an "invasive medical procedure". It's silly. Good rant though. Complete with childish swearing even!