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Saying that something 'glows in the dark' implies interference, so unfortunately, within cryptography, it has become an industry term as well as metaphor. Othe
by 0des 5y ago
Saying that something 'glows in the dark' implies interference, so unfortunately, within cryptography, it has become an industry term as well as metaphor.
Other examples are the 'mystery padding' in keccak vs sha3.
- Jensson 5y agoI read the 3 replies and I still don't know what glowing means in cryptographic terms. I even tried to google it with cryptography added but nothing.
- ajb 5y agoIt means that the designer may have inserted an unpublished weakness. See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing-up-my-sleeve_number https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing-up-my-sleeve_number
- 0des 5y agoAs in the case of Keccak and SHA3, it doesn't necessarily have to be the designer, it can also be the reviewing committee.
- roxaaaane 5y agoIt's probably metaphorical, to mean distinguishable ?! And the term has never been used in crypto
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- smoldesu 5y agoIt's imageboard/IRC slang, you won't find any documentation on it because it's an intentionally obfuscated/dogwhistle phrase intended to only 'make sense' to other browsers who've stuck around long enough to get spoonfed.
- 0des 5y agoUsing the term 'dogwhistle' seems like a divisive way to discount what I said. Do you care to articulate yourself in a way that addresses the actual substance of what I said, or is this it?
- matheusmoreira 5y agoGlowing is not cryptographic jargon. It's a word used years ago by the developer of TempleOS in a livestream to describe CIA operators. He said he could tell who was CIA because they would glow in the dark. Users of the 4chan technology board witnessed this and it became a meme. To say something glows means to suggest the US three letter agencies are interfering with it. If some cryptography glows, it means it's been compromised by US authorities. Glowies are the operators themselves.
- Lammy 5y agoAgreed that "dogwhistle" is lowkey pejorative. I prefer "shibboleth".
- metagame 5y ago"Glowing" means that it's probably a plot of a government. It's not cryptography-specific.
- stavros 5y agoIsn't Keccak SHA3?
- Ar-Curunir 5y agoI’ve never heard a cryptographer use “glow-in-the-dark” when talking about potentially fishy schemes. Source: am cryptographer
- woodruffw 5y agoI work with a decent group of academic and industry cryptographers, and I’ve never heard any of them use the term (even as a joke.) My main familiarity with it is from imageboard culture, where (mostly) reactionaries use it to accuse each other of being feds.
- magicalhippo 5y ago> Saying that something 'glows in the dark' implies interference Given that "glows in the dark" typically refers to fluorescence[1], where does the interference comes in? [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence
- rocqua 5y agoI know that some cryptography protocols have intermediate results that need to be deleted. This is sometimes referred to as 'radioactive waste'