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I went over this with you a few weeks ago. Only one of his eighteen charges has anything to do with hacking, and what actions he took is already very clear from

I went over this with you a few weeks ago. Only one of his eighteen charges has anything to do with hacking, and what actions he took is already very clear from the Manning trial. The "hacking" he did was saying he'd try to crack a generic Windows password that provided zero additional documents. There's little chance anything else could come out in court as if they had proof he did something else they would have charged him with it. Even further, he'd still be a journalist if found guilty on this charge, as every other charge is for actions that are unquestionably journalism. And I don't care if you're sick of hearing he can't get a fair trial, it's still true that he can't get a fair trial. Things like his attorney client privilege have already been compromised, and witnesses the US offered deals to for testifying have already recanted their testimony. This isn't a presupposition, it happened.

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
> There's little chance anything else could come out in court Famous last words. You can't have an unfair trial unless you have a trial. He needs to stand trial and if the US govt pulls some unfair BS then I'll be right there to condemn them and I'll be sure to let my representatives know.
- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  >Famous last words. Not really, a court case only deals with the charges the accused would be on trial for. While it's possible that they'd try to pull out another witness like Thordarson to try and claim he has a history of hacking, anything they had actual evidence of him doing would be a new charge. >You can't have an unfair trial unless you have a trial. You absolutely can. Prosecutorial misconduct in the pretrial stages can cause there to be an unfair trial before the trial ever begins. Things like the instances of misconduct mentioned in my previous post, which you should condemn and contact your representatives about already. This is a standard of US law. As an easy example, an improperly acquired warrant can cause an unfair trial causing a case to be thrown out.
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2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago

> There's little chance anything else could come out in court Famous last words. You can't have an unfair trial unless you have a trial. He needs to stand trial and if the US govt pulls some unfair BS then I'll be right there to condemn them and I'll be sure to let my representatives know.

boomboomsubban 5y ago
>Famous last words. Not really, a court case only deals with the charges the accused would be on trial for. While it's possible that they'd try to pull out another witness like Thordarson to try and claim he has a history of hacking, anything they had actual evidence of him doing would be a new charge. >You can't have an unfair trial unless you have a trial. You absolutely can. Prosecutorial misconduct in the pretrial stages can cause there to be an unfair trial before the trial ever begins. Things like the instances of misconduct mentioned in my previous post, which you should condemn and contact your representatives about already. This is a standard of US law. As an easy example, an improperly acquired warrant can cause an unfair trial causing a case to be thrown out.
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