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> Have you lived any length of time in Canada? Yes, I am a Canadian. I lived there for 25 years. I have Canadian citizenship. Most of my family still lives the

> Have you lived any length of time in Canada? Yes, I am a Canadian. I lived there for 25 years. I have Canadian citizenship. Most of my family still lives there. I also ended up stuck in Ontario for most of COVID. I have family in Ontario, in Quebec, and elsewhere in the country. I don't think Ontario had a very good handle on COVID. It's also no secret that Canada is suffering a major staffing, and funding shortage in the healthcare sector right now. While most of your reply is about dentists (I'll get to that later), I see you're comparing Canada's healthcare system to the USA. I'm not. Compared to other systems in NA, yes, it's much better since it's free and somewhat fair. But that's the problem. Canadians should be looking to other developed nations with public healthcare. Not to the United States which operates on a completely different paradigm. My comment that you're replying to is entirely contrasting Canadian healthcare with EU systems, not Americans. > dental office reopened The majority of dentists are private entities, and are not subject to the same funding rules as hospitals. They're not licensed through the same entities, funded, or managed in the same way at all. Likely why they were able to adapt so quickly. See: https://www.cda-adc.ca/stateoforalhealth/servicescanada/ https://www.cda-adc.ca/stateoforalhealth/servicescanada/ > [..] they checked vaccination status and accepted the mask she walked in with. I'm not really sure what you're getting at here, this does not really relate to funding, or anything I'm talking about really. This is more about safety policy, not funding, which is what I'm trying to discuss. Don't get me wrong, I've had some good experiences with the system as well, but that does not mean it shouldn't significantly improved.

jleyank 5y ago
The masks might have been after seeing a different comment, sorry. The problem with improving the system is that 1/3 of the country seems to want the US system in healthcare and probably (lots?) of other things. So it goes. Re: Ontario, I was looking at Ottawa specifically, the province generally and while it's "blessed" with a Conservative premier he's taken more medical advice (or indulged his populist leanings) more than other such premiers. Canadians, for the most part, are willing to play along which also helps.
- trutannus 5y ago
  I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. I don't really think there's any real reason to think that 1/3 of Canada wants the American system. That's certainly never something I've seen any evidence for. My impression was always that it was a point of general pride that the Canadian system "wasn't' like the American's". Only a small fringe want otherwise from what I can tell. It's not even in the platform of any small fringe parties as far as I can tell. I would suspect if a niche issue like Albertan separatism finds political expression, this would too. Could you be conflating talks about "privatization" (allowing private clinics to exist and take OHIP) with private healthcare payments (you don't get OHIP) by mistake? Those two are not really the same at all, but get conflated in the media often. That last part there about Ottawa or Ontario, not sure which one, doesn't really make much sense, sorry. It's unclear what you're getting at. Nothing there really sounds related to what I'm talking about.

jleyank 5y ago

The masks might have been after seeing a different comment, sorry. The problem with improving the system is that 1/3 of the country seems to want the US system in healthcare and probably (lots?) of other things. So it goes. Re: Ontario, I was looking at Ottawa specifically, the province generally and while it's "blessed" with a Conservative premier he's taken more medical advice (or indulged his populist leanings) more than other such premiers. Canadians, for the most part, are willing to play along which also helps.

trutannus 5y ago
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. I don't really think there's any real reason to think that 1/3 of Canada wants the American system. That's certainly never something I've seen any evidence for. My impression was always that it was a point of general pride that the Canadian system "wasn't' like the American's". Only a small fringe want otherwise from what I can tell. It's not even in the platform of any small fringe parties as far as I can tell. I would suspect if a niche issue like Albertan separatism finds political expression, this would too. Could you be conflating talks about "privatization" (allowing private clinics to exist and take OHIP) with private healthcare payments (you don't get OHIP) by mistake? Those two are not really the same at all, but get conflated in the media often. That last part there about Ottawa or Ontario, not sure which one, doesn't really make much sense, sorry. It's unclear what you're getting at. Nothing there really sounds related to what I'm talking about.