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You need to flip your question around - the person you're replying to is not suggesting there is data that living in Boston lowers testosterone, they are sugges
by PaulRobinson 5y ago
You need to flip your question around - the person you're replying to is not suggesting there is data that living in Boston lowers testosterone, they are suggesting there is not enough data included in this study to extrapolate that this effect is anything other than local.
For the same reason that a study conducted on Japanese men would not produce results sufficient to draw a conclusion about all men globally, you can't draw a conclusion about all men in the US from a result observed in men in Boston.
Boston has a local environment, diet, culture and ethnography that could be causal in any result seen in any study.
Taken at a very simple level, you couldn't run a poll in Boston alone about anything - politics, preferred beer brands, opinions about Saturday Night Live, whatever - and assume your results would be representative of the entirety of the United States.
One hypothesis for the cause of the effect being described in this study is that contraceptive pill use in women is affecting hormone levels in drinking water.
Can you see how the use of a particular type of contraceptive pill could change from town to town, state to state, and that the water filtration systems may differ from town to town, state to state? And that's a pretty simple environmental factor you'd need to control for, or you could investigate locally.
- JohnJamesRambo 5y agoYeah I get all those things, I just don't think Boston is that different than the rest of the USA to account for the magnitude of change we see. A little change, sure. But we are talking a halving of bioavailable testosterone. Nevermind the fact that this isn't the only study showing declines in testosterone all over the world. https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2017/10/02/youre-not-the-man-your-father-was/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2017/10/02/youre-not-t... >Studies show that men’s testosterone levels have been declining for decades. The most prominent, a 2007 study in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, revealed a “substantial” drop in U.S. men’s testosterone levels since the 1980s, with average levels declining by about 1% per year. This means, for example, that a 60-year-old man in 2004 had testosterone levels 17% lower than those of a 60-year-old in 1987. Another study of Danish men produced similar findings, with double-digit declines among men born in the 1960s compared to those born in the 1920s.