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On the flip side China purchased most Chinese language media in Australia some time back. https://www.smh.com.au/national/chinese-language-newspapers-in-austra
by Gustomaximus 5y ago
On the flip side China purchased most Chinese language media in Australia some time back.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/chinese-language-newspapers-in-australia-beijing-controls-messaging-propaganda-in-press-20160610-gpg0s3.html https://www.smh.com.au/national/chinese-language-newspapers-...
- eunos 5y agomeh these days the important messages are delivered by WeChat.
- refurb 5y agoSeems like China sees Australia as the front line in their battle with the West. The recent nuclear submarine deal makes a lot more sense with that world view.
- 8eye 5y agointeresting perspective, i have not even considered that
- notfromhere 5y agoANZAC are the only two European settled Western countries in Asia, so not surprising. Especially since Australia is so closely integrated into the Anglosphere.
- bigbillheck 5y ago> ANZAC are the only two European settled Western countries in Asia It wasn't for lack of trying.
- gpt5 5y agoANZAC stands for Army corps, not for the countries. And the countries have hemselves are not in Asia.
- gpt5 5y agoANZAC stands for Army corps, not for the countries. And the countries have themselves are not in Asia.
- machiaweliczny 5y agoMakes sense as AFAIK they are reliant on China with their economy
- ChemSpider 5y agoI thought so, too. But it seems it is more the other way around: Australia was doing fine (can sell its stuff elsewhere), but China needs the imports: https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3151549/chinas-bid-weaponise-trade-crumbles-it-turns-australia-cotton https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3151549/c...
- ethbr0 5y agoIt's complicated. By proportion of trade, China is more important to Australia than Australia is to China. But that only speaks to the total values, not substitutability or importance. Given that most of what China imports from Australia are raw materials, and China is still a primarily manufacturing and construction economy (in dollar terms), it seems like a shortsighted move. Especially since Australia generally has good relationships with the West (especially the UK and US) due to shared culture. The proper time to try to bully Australia into line would have been 20 years from now, once China's economy has fully developed and Belt and Road has had time to play out. But I imagine the Chinese were looking at Australia through the optics of (1) what the US was doing & (2) how a Chinese reaction to Australia's stubbornness would be read by other, smaller SE Asian countries.
- tweedledee 5y agoI have a feeling Australia will also get nukes reasonably soon. First nuke subs, then US bases with US nukes, then nuke subs with nukes. The Chinese pushed the Australians too far, they underestimated their obstinance. Australian attitudes are changing rapidly and in my view it won't take long until a nuclear deterrence becomes the obvious and only solution.
- babelfish 5y agoHow has China ‘pushed’ Australia at all?
- ethbr0 5y agoEssentially, circa 2015+, Australia began loudly pushing back on Chinese claims to the South China Sea & regarding Taiwan, and banned Huawei involvement in core telecom. China, seeking to make an example in the region, escalated. https://www.hudson.org/research/17228-how-china-overreached-in-australia https://www.hudson.org/research/17228-how-china-overreached-... "Since 2018, China has refused to accept cabinet-level meetings with Australian counterparts, and for the past year is refusing to even accept phone calls. Since 2020, Beijing has imposed punitive measures against Australian barley, coal, timber, beef, cotton, sugar, copper, wool, lobsters, wine, and liquefied natural gas. These export sectors bring in around $15 billion a year from China. State authorities have issued arbitrary travel and safety warnings to Chinese students hoping to study in Australia."
- babelfish 5y agoSo if Australia was the instigator, how can China be blamed for their sanctions (“pushing” Australia)?
- speedybird 5y agoHow do you read that comment and conclude that Australia was the instigator? Do you really believe that China's claims to the South China Sea are legitimate?
- johncena33 5y agoAs an immigrant in Canada, I always thought Canada is the entry door in the West for China. Canada's biggest city Toronto not only has a huge amount of Chinese population, a vast majority of them are new wealthy immigrants. Urban white Canadians also tend to be pro-China under woke ideology umbrella.