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Very few people are racist, although you will find that if immigrants come from eastern europe instead of exotic countries like Ethiopia and Tanzania, the perce

by 4ad 5y ago

Very few people are racist, although you will find that if immigrants come from eastern europe instead of exotic countries like Ethiopia and Tanzania, the percentage of racist people towards them increases dramatically. Even so, few are overtly racist, yet somehow the society behaves in a way that precludes true integration. My friends from Romania are paid significantly less than their native Austrian collegues. Are their bosses racist? I don't know, I don't necessarily think so, yet the society somehow converged to this state.

alangibson 5y ago
People are to polite to be overtly racist. You're totally right about eastern Europeans though. Hungarians, Romanians, etc. do a lot of the crap work so they get looked down on. (Pretty standard Marxist analysis there). What I mean about Racism vs racism though is they don't get red lined put of home ownership or disproportionately harassed by the cops though. At least as far as I am aware. > true integration I don't believe full integration happens until the second generation. We immigrants will always be from somewhere else. Their kids have a foot in both worlds. Their kids are fully from where they live. I could be wrong; these were my observations living with a large number of immigrants in Seattle.
blub 5y ago
Here in Germany the BLM protest marches were tolerated in the middle of the pandemic. News orgs would fall over themselves trying to dredge something to be offended about in Germany’s colonial past or discussing any triviality regarding black people. I saw this one article about people from Eastern Europe working in Germany, lodged together like cattle, passports taken by the employer for safe keeping. Modern slavery happening in 2021 on German soil. Few comments online if any condemning the perpetrators and zero empathy, no marches, no protests.

by 4ad 5y ago

alangibson 5y ago

People are to polite to be overtly racist. You're totally right about eastern Europeans though. Hungarians, Romanians, etc. do a lot of the crap work so they get looked down on. (Pretty standard Marxist analysis there). What I mean about Racism vs racism though is they don't get red lined put of home ownership or disproportionately harassed by the cops though. At least as far as I am aware. > true integration I don't believe full integration happens until the second generation. We immigrants will always be from somewhere else. Their kids have a foot in both worlds. Their kids are fully from where they live. I could be wrong; these were my observations living with a large number of immigrants in Seattle.

blub 5y ago

Here in Germany the BLM protest marches were tolerated in the middle of the pandemic. News orgs would fall over themselves trying to dredge something to be offended about in Germany’s colonial past or discussing any triviality regarding black people. I saw this one article about people from Eastern Europe working in Germany, lodged together like cattle, passports taken by the employer for safe keeping. Modern slavery happening in 2021 on German soil. Few comments online if any condemning the perpetrators and zero empathy, no marches, no protests.