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How much of that cost is associated with the extreme safety measures that have to be put in place? The green movement has instilled the idea that nuclear power
by CodeGlitch 5y ago
How much of that cost is associated with the extreme safety measures that have to be put in place? The green movement has instilled the idea that nuclear power is dangerous, which means the general public won't accept anything but the extreme safety measures.
- turbinerneiter 5y agoIf you act like the dangers or nuclear power are made up and safety measures not needed you are really, really hurting the cause.
- varajelle 5y agoI can't answer for the parent, but the fallacy I often hear is that it is too expensive *and* dangerous. But it is just taking the same argument twice. Nuclear in Japan before Fukushima was in fact quite cheap if I'm not mistaken. New reactor are expensive but shouldn't be dangerous anymore.
- CodeGlitch 5y agoI suppose I should have stressed "risk compared to other forms of power generation with similar outputs". All forms of power generation come with risk.
- dane-pgp 5y agoAsk the people of Fukushima if they think the safety measures for nuclear power stations are "extreme".
- tkgally 5y agoAlso the people formerly of Fukushima. Many, perhaps most, of those who had to leave will never return.
- nickpp 5y agoAlso ask the countless dead from the hydrocarbon burning pollution if they think this alternative is so much safer.
- throw0101a 5y ago122K / 200K have returned per this 2019 article: > Radiation from the fuming plant spread over tile-roofed towns and rice paddies across an area the size of Connecticut. The meltdown 150 miles north of Tokyo drove more than 200,000 people out of the region. Most believed they were fleeing for their lives. Now, almost eight years after the accident, the government has lifted most evacuation orders. Nearly 122,000 people have been allowed to return to communities where weeds have overtaken parking lots. * https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fukushima-residents-return-despite-radiation/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fukushima-residen...
- CodeGlitch 5y agoYou mean the same Fukushima nuclear disaster whereby there's 1 confirmed death (from cancer)? Sounds like a good advert for nuclear IMHO.
- timeon 5y agoThere is no need to move the goal post. He and you were talking about 'safety measures'.
- RealityVoid 5y agoEvery time Fukushima is brought up, I am baffled how everyone remembers the nuclear incident, but not the many thousands of people that died from the tsunami. And ye, people are always "Let's not build nuclear" not "let's not build stuff next to the shore" - one is deemed an acceptable risk, the other is not. Why?
- dane-pgp 5y agoIf you build something (non-nuclear) next to the shore, that doesn't increase my risk of dying from a tsunami. Also, if I choose to live in a certain location, the risk of a tsunami affecting that location doesn't change very much over time, whereas it's harder to predict whether a nuclear power station will be well managed and maintained decades into the future (and there's also uncertainty about where new nuclear power stations may be built).
- timeon 5y ago> The green movement has instilled the idea I do not think this narrative is reasonable because almost no one ever cared about 'green movement'.