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It is the copious amounts of whitespace that I find so very offensive in Material UI. My secret guilty pleasure at work is shooting down any mention of using M

It is the copious amounts of whitespace that I find so very offensive in Material UI. My secret guilty pleasure at work is shooting down any mention of using Material UI design in any of our software haha.. it is just silly how much pleasure I get from it :)

cout 5y ago
Large amounts of whitespace became vogue around the same time as skinny scrollbars. I don't mind the whitespace -- it makes it easier to see how things are grouped on the screen. But give me back usable scrollbars on non-touch devices, please! As I age I find it harder and harder to see and click on small things, so these newfangled design languages that make UI elements smaller feel very unaccessible.
- paulryanrogers 5y ago
  Maybe I'm just nostalgic but I preferred dense UIs of the 90s. At least those which didn't have too much empty space, and communicated grouping with boring stuff like fieldset. Now it seems I must scroll forever and there are no discernible anchors to link to. When studying web design in the early aughts the popular Nielson book ("Designing Web Usability") argued for separate pages over a lot of scrolling. For informational sites I think that approach is superior.
  - vbezhenar 5y ago
    IMO the best approach is some kind of amalgamation between scrolling and paging. For example infinite scrolling, but with clear separation between pages and with URL changing to the corresponding page (so I can bookmark it and return to this page later, for example). Infinite scroll as a concept is good. If I'm at the bottom of the page, chances are high that I want to get next page anyway, so why don't you show it for me already. If I don't need it, whatever. If I need it, it's there.
    - nitrogen 5y ago
      Infinite scroll as a concept is good. Infinite scrolling doesn't work with scrollbars, and somehow people still think it's okay to put important links in the page footer... on an infinite scrolling site where it's literally impossible to ever reach the page footer.
atatatat 5y ago
Be cooler if you could implement Material Design in a more usable way than even Google, no?

cout 5y ago

Large amounts of whitespace became vogue around the same time as skinny scrollbars. I don't mind the whitespace -- it makes it easier to see how things are grouped on the screen. But give me back usable scrollbars on non-touch devices, please! As I age I find it harder and harder to see and click on small things, so these newfangled design languages that make UI elements smaller feel very unaccessible.

paulryanrogers 5y ago
Maybe I'm just nostalgic but I preferred dense UIs of the 90s. At least those which didn't have too much empty space, and communicated grouping with boring stuff like fieldset. Now it seems I must scroll forever and there are no discernible anchors to link to. When studying web design in the early aughts the popular Nielson book ("Designing Web Usability") argued for separate pages over a lot of scrolling. For informational sites I think that approach is superior.
- vbezhenar 5y ago
  IMO the best approach is some kind of amalgamation between scrolling and paging. For example infinite scrolling, but with clear separation between pages and with URL changing to the corresponding page (so I can bookmark it and return to this page later, for example). Infinite scroll as a concept is good. If I'm at the bottom of the page, chances are high that I want to get next page anyway, so why don't you show it for me already. If I don't need it, whatever. If I need it, it's there.
  - nitrogen 5y ago
    Infinite scroll as a concept is good. Infinite scrolling doesn't work with scrollbars, and somehow people still think it's okay to put important links in the page footer... on an infinite scrolling site where it's literally impossible to ever reach the page footer.

atatatat 5y ago

Be cooler if you could implement Material Design in a more usable way than even Google, no?