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We are building a new way to cherish memories. Sign up for beta if interested.

6 points by tuhin 15y ago

martey 15y ago
I might be in the minority, but describing the site as "a new way to cherish memories" does not really entice me to sign up. Visiting the Twitter account led me to http://betali.st/startups/momment http://betali.st/startups/momment , which sounds more interesting.
- petervandijck 15y ago
  Yea, cherishing memories sounds like it's for old people, really. No?
  - tuhin 15y ago
    Actually we had put up the entire description there but thought it was giving too much away. Do you guys think giving more details would make you sign up all the more?
    - tomjen3 15y ago
      I certainly wouldn't consider signing up with that little information.
    - cj 15y ago
      You don't gain anything by hiding what your product is from potential users. If you're worried about someone stealing your idea, don't be (not that its a bad idea, it just doesn't generally happen like that).
    - rhizome 15y ago
      Ask yourself how often you engage on a similar level if detail.
    - omaranto 15y ago
      "Giving too much away"? That makes no sense, do you regularly sign up for stuff you have no idea what it's for?
glimcat 15y ago
Misspelled word as name is a turn-off. Also, the tag line being all the info available, it makes me think that it's a photo sharing site, or a blogging site, or a photo blogging site, or something like that. There are plenty of those already. If you really are doing something noteworthy, you need to communicate it more effectively.
- tuhin 15y ago
  We would certainly like to own moment.com or moment.me but apparently trying to buy it at this point when we have not even validated the idea seemed premature. But believe me, if things go as per the plan we would like to buy it more than anybody. It is an eyesore to see that. :)
- jamesteow 15y ago
  I assume you don't use Googol.
  - ktsmith 15y ago
    Some misspellings are better than others. Google and Googol work together phonetically. Momment and moment don't.
    - tuhin 15y ago
      How do you read momment? I read it the same way as moment. Do you read it like mom-ment?
      - ktsmith 15y ago
        There are two m's so of course I read it like mom ment
swombat 15y ago
I think you'll need more than "a new way to cherish memories" with no substance whatsoever to get me to signup...
- tuhin 15y ago
  Just updated the page based on the feedback. See if makes more sense now. Thanks for the feedback. We had been going forward and backward on this so this has truly helped.
  - tomjen3 15y ago
    You are still not telling us what you do. Don't expand on what memories are (we know that) expand on what "a new way" means.
    - prodigal_erik 15y ago
      They don't do anything, yet. They are angling for uncompensated market research, but the submission had little content and so isn't earning attention from HN.
      - tuhin 15y ago
        At least care to dig around before making such a sweeping statement. -This was not uncompensated market research statement. -We are 30 days away from first wave of access invites. -We don't do nothing. PS: I just went through your comments and it made me realise why you would make such a statement.
        prodigal_erik 15y ago
        I'm sorry. In http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2881127 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2881127 you advocated measuring interest (probably the most important part of market research) before building anything, and to all appearances you aren't currently offering any services at http://momment.com/ http://momment.com/, so I assumed you actually had not built anything. What has your team done, and can we see it?
lawlit 15y ago
So you don't even have time to write your own launch page ?
- tuhin 15y ago
  Where did that come from? We are going ahead with "momment" as our brand name due to lack of a better domain available that gives the same feeling when you read it or hear it. So it is not a spelling mistake "technically".
toddmorey 15y ago
I don't think this is a bad concept, but what are the ethics of harvesting the HN community for early signups? Better, I think, would have been to write a technical article with some value to the community and offer early access signups at the end. The way it's been submitted you pretty much spammed us... a trend that I hope doesn't gain more traction.
- tuhin 15y ago
  Well someone thought it good enough to upvote and make it land on front page. That is the best thing about HN, if people do not like your link it just dies down and you cannot share it again.
gautaml 15y ago
Why can't sites just go live? I'm sick of seeing these marketing stunts with new startups wanting you to get on the list just to lure you in. If I'm going to sign up for anything it better be ready to go and use. Fuck it, just do it live. /saturday-morning-rant
- tuhin 15y ago
  Because you need to have that sign up page there before you literally write your first line of code. If you went live today you would be spending hours on an idea you don't even know people want. Putting up a simple page like this takes half a day and you can get to know if people are interested in your world changing idea. As an entrepreneur don't you want to know that? I do.
  - gautaml 15y ago
    Wait that's absurd. So as an entrepreneur your idea is you want to go around asking people if they'd be interested in an idea before you decide to invest time into it? So what happens if your idea is (at least to you) pretty brilliant yet you don't get feedback. Will you drop the idea and move onto the next thing? So with this logic I assume you have least a half dozen "idea" sites like this and whichever gets the most feedback, that's the one you will invest your time in? Sigh. Edit: So I just realized I started pretty much every sentence with "So"
    - tuhin 15y ago
      No. But it helps if people show interest. It is one of the many directional metric that you can use to gauge to understand what of your 10 ideas you have every week should you invest more time in. And no, it does not mean you have a sign up page for 10 of them. :) Highly recommend Eric Ries' Lean Startup Video/Book.
  - glimcat 15y ago
    I'd still recommend spending a few weekends banging out a minimally-functional prototype in Rails. It's more engaging and it forces you to think through the concept in more detail. It's also good coding practice.
gautaml 15y ago
So as to not come off as a total douchebag from my previous comments, I will commend you on doing what it takes to get noticed. I am in the same boat (as you) and I can understand it's hard to get people to notice you especially if you have no backing/funding/whatever. I'm flying solo so it's especially hard for me. However, if you want us to give you something, you have to give us something. :) I'm not going to sign up, but I will keep an eye out for your announcement when it does go live! :) Good luck.

6 points by tuhin 15y ago

I might be in the minority, but describing the site as "a new way to cherish memories" does not really entice me to sign up. Visiting the Twitter account led me to http://betali.st/startups/momment http://betali.st/startups/momment , which sounds more interesting.

petervandijck 15y ago
Yea, cherishing memories sounds like it's for old people, really. No?
- tuhin 15y ago
  Actually we had put up the entire description there but thought it was giving too much away. Do you guys think giving more details would make you sign up all the more?
  - tomjen3 15y ago
    I certainly wouldn't consider signing up with that little information.
  - cj 15y ago
    You don't gain anything by hiding what your product is from potential users. If you're worried about someone stealing your idea, don't be (not that its a bad idea, it just doesn't generally happen like that).
  - rhizome 15y ago
    Ask yourself how often you engage on a similar level if detail.
  - omaranto 15y ago
    "Giving too much away"? That makes no sense, do you regularly sign up for stuff you have no idea what it's for?

glimcat 15y ago

Misspelled word as name is a turn-off. Also, the tag line being all the info available, it makes me think that it's a photo sharing site, or a blogging site, or a photo blogging site, or something like that. There are plenty of those already. If you really are doing something noteworthy, you need to communicate it more effectively.

tuhin 15y ago
We would certainly like to own moment.com or moment.me but apparently trying to buy it at this point when we have not even validated the idea seemed premature. But believe me, if things go as per the plan we would like to buy it more than anybody. It is an eyesore to see that. :)
jamesteow 15y ago
I assume you don't use Googol.
- ktsmith 15y ago
  Some misspellings are better than others. Google and Googol work together phonetically. Momment and moment don't.
  - tuhin 15y ago
    How do you read momment? I read it the same way as moment. Do you read it like mom-ment?
    - ktsmith 15y ago
      There are two m's so of course I read it like mom ment

swombat 15y ago

I think you'll need more than "a new way to cherish memories" with no substance whatsoever to get me to signup...

tuhin 15y ago
Just updated the page based on the feedback. See if makes more sense now. Thanks for the feedback. We had been going forward and backward on this so this has truly helped.
- tomjen3 15y ago
  You are still not telling us what you do. Don't expand on what memories are (we know that) expand on what "a new way" means.
  - prodigal_erik 15y ago
    They don't do anything, yet. They are angling for uncompensated market research, but the submission had little content and so isn't earning attention from HN.
    - tuhin 15y ago
      At least care to dig around before making such a sweeping statement. -This was not uncompensated market research statement. -We are 30 days away from first wave of access invites. -We don't do nothing. PS: I just went through your comments and it made me realise why you would make such a statement.
      - prodigal_erik 15y ago
        I'm sorry. In http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2881127 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2881127 you advocated measuring interest (probably the most important part of market research) before building anything, and to all appearances you aren't currently offering any services at http://momment.com/ http://momment.com/, so I assumed you actually had not built anything. What has your team done, and can we see it?

lawlit 15y ago

So you don't even have time to write your own launch page ?

tuhin 15y ago
Where did that come from? We are going ahead with "momment" as our brand name due to lack of a better domain available that gives the same feeling when you read it or hear it. So it is not a spelling mistake "technically".

toddmorey 15y ago

I don't think this is a bad concept, but what are the ethics of harvesting the HN community for early signups? Better, I think, would have been to write a technical article with some value to the community and offer early access signups at the end. The way it's been submitted you pretty much spammed us... a trend that I hope doesn't gain more traction.

tuhin 15y ago
Well someone thought it good enough to upvote and make it land on front page. That is the best thing about HN, if people do not like your link it just dies down and you cannot share it again.

gautaml 15y ago

Why can't sites just go live? I'm sick of seeing these marketing stunts with new startups wanting you to get on the list just to lure you in. If I'm going to sign up for anything it better be ready to go and use. Fuck it, just do it live. /saturday-morning-rant

tuhin 15y ago
Because you need to have that sign up page there before you literally write your first line of code. If you went live today you would be spending hours on an idea you don't even know people want. Putting up a simple page like this takes half a day and you can get to know if people are interested in your world changing idea. As an entrepreneur don't you want to know that? I do.
- gautaml 15y ago
  Wait that's absurd. So as an entrepreneur your idea is you want to go around asking people if they'd be interested in an idea before you decide to invest time into it? So what happens if your idea is (at least to you) pretty brilliant yet you don't get feedback. Will you drop the idea and move onto the next thing? So with this logic I assume you have least a half dozen "idea" sites like this and whichever gets the most feedback, that's the one you will invest your time in? Sigh. Edit: So I just realized I started pretty much every sentence with "So"
  - tuhin 15y ago
    No. But it helps if people show interest. It is one of the many directional metric that you can use to gauge to understand what of your 10 ideas you have every week should you invest more time in. And no, it does not mean you have a sign up page for 10 of them. :) Highly recommend Eric Ries' Lean Startup Video/Book.
- glimcat 15y ago
  I'd still recommend spending a few weekends banging out a minimally-functional prototype in Rails. It's more engaging and it forces you to think through the concept in more detail. It's also good coding practice.

gautaml 15y ago

So as to not come off as a total douchebag from my previous comments, I will commend you on doing what it takes to get noticed. I am in the same boat (as you) and I can understand it's hard to get people to notice you especially if you have no backing/funding/whatever. I'm flying solo so it's especially hard for me. However, if you want us to give you something, you have to give us something. :) I'm not going to sign up, but I will keep an eye out for your announcement when it does go live! :) Good luck.