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It’s agriculture that is causing the water problem, and desalination is cheap for residential purposes.
by Robotbeat 5y ago
It’s agriculture that is causing the water problem, and desalination is cheap for residential purposes.
- skybrian 5y agoBut sometimes fiercely resisted. I don’t know if the desalination plant will happen near Monterey.
- rocqua 5y agoWhat are the public arguments against desalination? Are there any interests at risk?
- mixmastamyk 5y agoIf not done properly it can kill sea life.
- Gibbon1 5y agoLot of liberals think about development the same way conservatives think about government. AKA starve the beast. Conservatives by trying to cut taxes. Liberals block things that they think enable development.
- mcny 5y agoTwo questions: 1. What is the power source? 2. Where does the extra salty brine go after desalination? These aren't big questions for small operations but become important for larger plants.
- Robotbeat 5y agoI mean, these questions have simple and quick answers. 1) The California Grid. and 2) The nearby ocean. The briny water can be made as close in salt content to seawater as you want, it just increases costs slightly. I think what you're saying is that environmental review takes years. But I don't think delays really help the environment. They just slow progress.
- throwaway09223 5y agoWater is fungible. It doesn't make sense to give water for almost free to farmers to grow grass for cows, then turn around and burn energy to desalinate drinking water. Instead, we should take the desalination plant money, buy out the farms, shut them down and take their water for drinking. Far more environmentally friendly and a lot cheaper too.
- allannienhuis 5y agoI actually agree with this in principle, but isn't California a huge source of food for much of the west coast? Where will the food be grown then?
- rmah 5y agoPretty much anywhere else with sunlight, soil and water?
- ta988 5y agoIn states with a more reasonable water usage?
- throwaway09223 5y agoYes and no. There are crops which make sense to grow in California due to the climate, which we shouldn't grow elsewhere. Alfalfa isn't one of them. We export alfalfa to other countries, essentially exporting our water. Cow feed can be better grown elsewhere (and cows can be better raised elsewhere) Another problem crop in California is rice. We simply shouldn't grow rice in this state. Most rice is grown in the southern US where water is plentiful. We could stop growing rice without significant impact. More water is used in California growing rice than all of Los Angeles residential use put together. We could cut these crops significantly without appreciable impact to our food supply, using a fraction of our existing conservation budgets, and not have to worry about residential conservation for decades or longer. There's a pretty good intro to the economic breakdown here: https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/05/11/california-water-you-doing/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/05/11/california-water-you-d...
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- pkaye 5y agoIn the SF bay area, I know there is a desalination plant in Newark. They gave tours of it once a year.