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Because most of us will have to go on the hunt to find the keystrokes to get the symbol.

jhgb 5y ago
Have you tried the APL keyboard?
SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
Right-Ctrl C ' if you have a compose key (built in on Linux, WinCompose[1] for Windows, no clue for Mac). [1] https://github.com/samhocevar/wincompose https://github.com/samhocevar/wincompose
- remram 5y ago
  That gives me a Ç edit: Looks like it's supposed to work, I don't know what I'm doing wrong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable
  - pasquinelli 5y ago
    what do you get using comma?
    - remram 5y ago
      The same thing, ç edit: hold on, that's only in Firefox. Anywhere else, comma+c does ç and apostrophe+c does ć
  - Lammy 5y ago
    Are you in en_US? The sequence you mentioned should definitely work in that locale. Here’s a more authoritative link than the manually-updated wiki page: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libx11/-/blob/master/nls/en_US.UTF-8/Compose.pre https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libx11/-/blob/master... If you’re not in en_US you can find other locales and their Compose sequences in the nls directory.
- dubya 5y ago
  On Mac, hold down the "c" key and a little menu with accented versions (ç, ć, č) appears, with numbers to choose which one. The flip side is that holding down letters or numbers doesn't repeat them on a Mac.
  - toastal 5y ago
    The (Neo)Vim digraph is `C'`: Ctrl+k, Shift+c, '
  - boondaburrah 5y ago
    My old mac muscle memory is telling me option+e, c. I don't have one anymore to test though, but I used to use the mac layout on Linux for a while exactly for composing using alt.
    - waterhouse 5y ago
      Hmm, I get ´c when doing option-e c. I feel like it should work to combine the two, but ... Looks like that functionality only applies to the vowels (and not y): á´b´c´dé´f´g´hí´j´k´l´m´nó´p´q´r´s´tú´v´w´x´y´z.
  - jfk13 5y ago
    I'm not seeing that behavior; my letter/number keys simply repeat. But I'm sure I've seen it before. I guess there may be an option somewhere to enable/disable it, but offhand I can't seem to find it. Or maybe this has changed (back) in a recent OS update? I'm running 12.0beta on this machine.
    - redwall_hp 5y ago
      It's been around since Lion or Mountain Lion, IIRC. There's a toggle in keyboard settings to choose between repeating or hold-for-alternate behavior (like how iOS works). The substitution behavior is the default, but if you already had repeat mode on it may have carried forward. The old way was option+e and a vowel for an accute accent mark, but I don't think that works with consonants.
0xTJ 5y ago
I highly recommend using a compose key to enter special characters. I think it's more common by default on Linux, but I use WinCompose. I've never entered "ć" in my life, but hitting ALT, apostrophe then c, it worked.
wyldfire 5y ago
Back in the day you could enter these with alt-... numpad keystrokes. Decimal ASCII representation maybe? Might still work in some situations?
- emmelaich 5y ago
  Yep, still works. Also does four digits iirc. For extended unicode.
redwall_hp 5y ago
Mac and iOS: hold C down, push Ć.
mattigames 5y ago
Just store it in your brain as "cito" and google will do the rest, e.g. google "cito programing language" or "cito GitHub"
enriquto 5y ago
Most of who? Most people in the world are not native english speakers.
- jeofken 5y ago
  In biology, it’s Latin. In computing, it’s English. Fellow ESLers, let’s just get over it.
  - Zababa 5y ago
    Not exactly. {, }, [, ], (, ) are not part of the English alphabet but they are widely used. Same thing for ->, =>, !=. But things like λ are not used at all. So the alphabet of computing is ASCII.
    - jeofken 5y ago
      > {, }, [, ], (, ) are not part of the English alphabet but they are widely used. Same thing for ->, =>, !=. But things like λ are not used at all. Yet your sentence, clearly written in English, contains all these characters.
      - enriquto 5y ago
        English also contains many accented words: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_terms_with_diacritical_marks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_terms_with_diacritical... You are supposed to be able to type them if you write in English. Also, if you are in polite company, it's alright to drop the occasional Greek word. So here we are: if you can fully write in English, you can use all these characters. Ascii-only is the modern equivalent of all-caps. Something archaic, still used by old people with hopelessly limited input devices.
jagrsw 5y ago
I took the liberty to read a couple of your previous HN threads, and from context there's a chance you're living in US and you are an English native speaker. Forgive me if the above is incorrect, but in case it is: The majority of your world's fellow humans, wishing to be comp developers, already spent months or years (combined) of their individual lives in order to learn English as non-native-speakers to do just that. Your "whining" (yes, it's intended to be somewhat impolite, but I don't think it's unreasonable given the above) that, in case Ć becomes the next-gen well-known programming tool, you'll have to spend maybe a couple of hours to update your keyboard mapping or learn some other way of quickly typping 'Ć' invokes 0 of my (and many others') empathy. Though many were helpful to suggest you how to do that quickly/correctly. I hope my words will be deemed as 'fair enough given the context' :)

jhgb 5y ago

Have you tried the APL keyboard?

Right-Ctrl C ' if you have a compose key (built in on Linux, WinCompose[1] for Windows, no clue for Mac). [1] https://github.com/samhocevar/wincompose https://github.com/samhocevar/wincompose

remram 5y ago
That gives me a Ç edit: Looks like it's supposed to work, I don't know what I'm doing wrong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable
- pasquinelli 5y ago
  what do you get using comma?
  - remram 5y ago
    The same thing, ç edit: hold on, that's only in Firefox. Anywhere else, comma+c does ç and apostrophe+c does ć
- Lammy 5y ago
  Are you in en_US? The sequence you mentioned should definitely work in that locale. Here’s a more authoritative link than the manually-updated wiki page: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libx11/-/blob/master/nls/en_US.UTF-8/Compose.pre https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libx11/-/blob/master... If you’re not in en_US you can find other locales and their Compose sequences in the nls directory.
dubya 5y ago
On Mac, hold down the "c" key and a little menu with accented versions (ç, ć, č) appears, with numbers to choose which one. The flip side is that holding down letters or numbers doesn't repeat them on a Mac.
- toastal 5y ago
  The (Neo)Vim digraph is `C'`: Ctrl+k, Shift+c, '
- boondaburrah 5y ago
  My old mac muscle memory is telling me option+e, c. I don't have one anymore to test though, but I used to use the mac layout on Linux for a while exactly for composing using alt.
  - waterhouse 5y ago
    Hmm, I get ´c when doing option-e c. I feel like it should work to combine the two, but ... Looks like that functionality only applies to the vowels (and not y): á´b´c´dé´f´g´hí´j´k´l´m´nó´p´q´r´s´tú´v´w´x´y´z.
- jfk13 5y ago
  I'm not seeing that behavior; my letter/number keys simply repeat. But I'm sure I've seen it before. I guess there may be an option somewhere to enable/disable it, but offhand I can't seem to find it. Or maybe this has changed (back) in a recent OS update? I'm running 12.0beta on this machine.
  - redwall_hp 5y ago
    It's been around since Lion or Mountain Lion, IIRC. There's a toggle in keyboard settings to choose between repeating or hold-for-alternate behavior (like how iOS works). The substitution behavior is the default, but if you already had repeat mode on it may have carried forward. The old way was option+e and a vowel for an accute accent mark, but I don't think that works with consonants.

0xTJ 5y ago

I highly recommend using a compose key to enter special characters. I think it's more common by default on Linux, but I use WinCompose. I've never entered "ć" in my life, but hitting ALT, apostrophe then c, it worked.

wyldfire 5y ago

Back in the day you could enter these with alt-... numpad keystrokes. Decimal ASCII representation maybe? Might still work in some situations?

emmelaich 5y ago
Yep, still works. Also does four digits iirc. For extended unicode.

redwall_hp 5y ago

Mac and iOS: hold C down, push Ć.

mattigames 5y ago

Just store it in your brain as "cito" and google will do the rest, e.g. google "cito programing language" or "cito GitHub"

enriquto 5y ago

Most of who? Most people in the world are not native english speakers.

jeofken 5y ago
In biology, it’s Latin. In computing, it’s English. Fellow ESLers, let’s just get over it.
- Zababa 5y ago
  Not exactly. {, }, [, ], (, ) are not part of the English alphabet but they are widely used. Same thing for ->, =>, !=. But things like λ are not used at all. So the alphabet of computing is ASCII.
  - jeofken 5y ago
    > {, }, [, ], (, ) are not part of the English alphabet but they are widely used. Same thing for ->, =>, !=. But things like λ are not used at all. Yet your sentence, clearly written in English, contains all these characters.
    - enriquto 5y ago
      English also contains many accented words: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_terms_with_diacritical_marks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_terms_with_diacritical... You are supposed to be able to type them if you write in English. Also, if you are in polite company, it's alright to drop the occasional Greek word. So here we are: if you can fully write in English, you can use all these characters. Ascii-only is the modern equivalent of all-caps. Something archaic, still used by old people with hopelessly limited input devices.

jagrsw 5y ago

I took the liberty to read a couple of your previous HN threads, and from context there's a chance you're living in US and you are an English native speaker. Forgive me if the above is incorrect, but in case it is: The majority of your world's fellow humans, wishing to be comp developers, already spent months or years (combined) of their individual lives in order to learn English as non-native-speakers to do just that. Your "whining" (yes, it's intended to be somewhat impolite, but I don't think it's unreasonable given the above) that, in case Ć becomes the next-gen well-known programming tool, you'll have to spend maybe a couple of hours to update your keyboard mapping or learn some other way of quickly typping 'Ć' invokes 0 of my (and many others') empathy. Though many were helpful to suggest you how to do that quickly/correctly. I hope my words will be deemed as 'fair enough given the context' :)