The Fifth was heavily revised, and yes, you have to be in the right mood (west coast fog, for example), to get the first bits. Also, I find that the very end a

The Fifth was heavily revised, and yes, you have to be in the right mood (west coast fog, for example), to get the first bits. Also, I find that the very end as written really "drops me on the floor" in a lot of performances; I have an old Karajan recording where he ignores the notated rhythm and bangs off those last chords really fast, and that works for me in a way that other endings do not.