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How does that make this ok?

by gnu8 5y ago

charcircuit 5y ago
Because it's normal in marketing. Most web servers log your whole IP yet people don't freak out about that.
- speedybird 5y ago
  Today you've told us to use chrome, trust google, and that spyware is okay if it's "normal in marketing". Do you work for google, or are you full of shit takes today for another reason? You clearly don't get what made people like Firefox in the first place. You are so out of touch, it's painful.
  - charcircuit 5y ago
    Things are often a lot more boring than what some people who are paranoid about their privacy believe. These people have trouble trusting others not to do the most evil thing possible and the internet would simply not work if everyone was actually anonymous.
    - speedybird 5y ago
      The opinion regarding firefox of one who would recommend Chrome is lower than dirt.
- beervirus 5y ago
  >it’s normal in marketing There’s a reason NOT to do something if I’ve ever heard one.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  > Because it's normal in marketing Just because some perverted minds consider something "normal" doesn't make it "normal" to me.
  - charcircuit 5y ago
    It's not about perversion. The data can be legitimately useful. It's normal because this same data was collected preinternet since they found it useful back then too.
- slater 5y ago
  Because it's normal in marketing Doesn't make it right. Most web servers log your whole IP yet people don't freak out about that Because people are unaware of that, or its implications.
- ketralnis 5y ago
  Much of Firefox's target market uses it because of the "normal in marketing" stuff it prevents
- JeremyNT 5y ago
  This isn't a web server, it's the browser. I expect web sites to spy on me, but not my own user agent!
  - charcircuit 5y ago
    A web browser is essentially a website itself. It already makes web requests to load stuff.
- tomjen3 5y ago
  Is ought fallacy. Just because it is normal in marketing does not make it okay. I am increasingly of the point that marketing, by itself, is not okay. In my browser, it is certainly not okay. I attempt to practice memetic hygine, so I do not want to see ads. Not wanting to see ads, and having some actual privacy in the first place, is why I use Firefox.
  - charcircuit 5y ago
    >Is ought fallacy. I am not trying to make a logical argument. That would require an agreement on a way to determine objectively whether something is okay or not. Unfortunately, humans are subjective beings. What they believe to be right and wrong is subjective. >I am increasingly of the point that marketing, by itself, is not okay. >I do not want to see ads. You say this yet you end your post with marketing. You are adverting Firefox. Marketing happens everywhere and trying to escape all of it is a fool's errand.

How does that make this ok?

by gnu8 5y ago

How does that make this ok?

charcircuit 5y ago

Because it's normal in marketing. Most web servers log your whole IP yet people don't freak out about that.

speedybird 5y ago
Today you've told us to use chrome, trust google, and that spyware is okay if it's "normal in marketing". Do you work for google, or are you full of shit takes today for another reason? You clearly don't get what made people like Firefox in the first place. You are so out of touch, it's painful.
- charcircuit 5y ago
  Things are often a lot more boring than what some people who are paranoid about their privacy believe. These people have trouble trusting others not to do the most evil thing possible and the internet would simply not work if everyone was actually anonymous.
  - speedybird 5y ago
    The opinion regarding firefox of one who would recommend Chrome is lower than dirt.
beervirus 5y ago
>it’s normal in marketing There’s a reason NOT to do something if I’ve ever heard one.
Nextgrid 5y ago
> Because it's normal in marketing Just because some perverted minds consider something "normal" doesn't make it "normal" to me.
- charcircuit 5y ago
  It's not about perversion. The data can be legitimately useful. It's normal because this same data was collected preinternet since they found it useful back then too.
slater 5y ago
Because it's normal in marketing Doesn't make it right. Most web servers log your whole IP yet people don't freak out about that Because people are unaware of that, or its implications.
ketralnis 5y ago
Much of Firefox's target market uses it because of the "normal in marketing" stuff it prevents
JeremyNT 5y ago
This isn't a web server, it's the browser. I expect web sites to spy on me, but not my own user agent!
- charcircuit 5y ago
  A web browser is essentially a website itself. It already makes web requests to load stuff.
tomjen3 5y ago
Is ought fallacy. Just because it is normal in marketing does not make it okay. I am increasingly of the point that marketing, by itself, is not okay. In my browser, it is certainly not okay. I attempt to practice memetic hygine, so I do not want to see ads. Not wanting to see ads, and having some actual privacy in the first place, is why I use Firefox.
- charcircuit 5y ago
  >Is ought fallacy. I am not trying to make a logical argument. That would require an agreement on a way to determine objectively whether something is okay or not. Unfortunately, humans are subjective beings. What they believe to be right and wrong is subjective. >I am increasingly of the point that marketing, by itself, is not okay. >I do not want to see ads. You say this yet you end your post with marketing. You are adverting Firefox. Marketing happens everywhere and trying to escape all of it is a fool's errand.