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Sure - but it's the process of making the world a better place. The more these tax havens get shut down the fewer (and riskier) places that corporations have t
by munk-a 5y ago
Sure - but it's the process of making the world a better place. The more these tax havens get shut down the fewer (and riskier) places that corporations have to shelter their revenue.
- lettergram 5y agoYeah because governments use those funds so effectively. It’s why when I look around the U.S. at the trillions we spent over the last two decades and I see... well looks pretty much the same as the 90s honestly
- munk-a 5y agoSorry, because governments spend money inefficiently we should just allow rampant corruption? That's an insanely fatalist view to take.
- m0zg 5y agoGovernment is the primary enabler of corruption in the first place. Don't know how it is in Ireland, but in the United States I can't really see it serving any other function at the moment. It abdicated all its responsibilities entirely, and for the past several decades it's been working only for its donors, not constituents. I would be surprised if Ireland is any better.
- Maarten88 5y agoThat is projection. I think if you look around in the world you could see many countries where government works quite well, with little corruption, maybe a bit slow, yet offering services that are better and more efficient than businesses could. In the US people have been led to believe this is simply impossible. Government may be the enabler of corruption but there is no alternative other than to fix it. Libertarians may believe you can mostly do without a government, but they are mistaken.
- m0zg 5y agoDoes it? Or does it work that way only in the Nordics where you seem to be from, judging by your handle?
- ulzeraj 5y agoBy funneling more money to bloody murderer US gov and friends you are enabling rampart corruption.
- seoaeu 5y agoBy what metric? The crime rate is down and the stock market is up. Not to mention that given the scale of the country, just continuing the same level of government services costs trillions
- cpursley 5y agoThe murder rate has skyrocketed in the past two years in the US. As have other crimes.
- seoaeu 5y agoThat's not the full picture. Population adjusted, violent crime is at nearly the lowest level it has been at it decades. Murder has spiked, but is still way below the peak of the early 90s [0] [0]: https://www.bbc.com/news/57581270 https://www.bbc.com/news/57581270
- m0zg 5y agoYes, but it'll make Dublin a worse place. That's something local governments should keep in mind. Also, the top corporations OWN the governments worldwide at this point. The suggestion that any of this will significantly affect them is naive at best.
- munk-a 5y agoI don't disagree - I can't imagine Ireland signed onto this without getting a serious benefit from it... and I think that ideally we should be looking at solutions that don't require any individual country to be altruistic - but still, I'm happy the change has happened.
- Macha 5y agoI think it's literally a case of it was getting done with or without the Irish government, so they took the "all members will have a minumum of at least 15%" to "all members will have a minimum of 15%" change so they had something to present as a win and to avoid a later discussion raising the minimum further.
- throw123123123 5y agoA non-elected set of administrators advocating for taxes make the world a better place? Which world are we talking about?