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And they'll get new friends. I doubt that shaming individuals works. But having thoughtful discourse about it is probably much better - let people hear the arg

• speedybird 5y ago
  > I doubt that shaming individuals works. But having thoughtful discourse about it is probably much better - let people hear the arguments and make up their mind. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Have a nice long thoughtful conversation with your friend about why you disapprove of what they're doing with their life, offer to help them find a new job if you're so inclined, but cut contact if/when they refuse to reform. Tell others what you've done and encourage them to do the same. Shaming almost certainly does work, otherwise humans wouldn't be so inclined to try it all the time. I'm quite certain that shaming is a tactic baked into our social instincts by evolution.
• int_19h 5y ago
  It does work, but it has to be truly pervasive. If it's 1 out of 9 personal interactions that the person might have, the very proportion becomes a self-justification: "if it really were that bad, why don't all those people bring it up?" But e.g. you don't see many people openly self-identifying as racists anymore.