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That’s a pretty huge distinction. Can’t believe he misrepresented the author like that.
by DantesKite 5y ago
That’s a pretty huge distinction. Can’t believe he misrepresented the author like that.
- Sohcahtoa82 5y agoThat was not my intention. I was operating under the assumption that anybody in the comment section had read the article first, since then it would have been known that I wasn't quoting the author, I was quoting something the author quoted.
- svelle 5y agoIt's the correct assumption to be made for the comments section to the article you quoted from.
- njbooher 5y agoReading the comments to decide if you want to read the article is also a valid workflow. Although anyone doing that (me included) isn't entitled to complain about quotes not having enough context.
- ajb 5y agoI always look at the HN comments first to see if the article is worth reading, and probably other people do as well. HN loads quickly, doesn't have a paywall/cookie pop-up so it's just a better experience to look here first, and often the comments here are better value anyway.
- TedDoesntTalk 5y agoVote with the down arrow. Why is it the first comment in this thread eden is complete nonsense?
- Vinnl 5y agoIf you re-read the comment with the assumption that they were not trying to (mis)represent the author, it still makes sense, so I don't think that was the intention.
- ithkuil 5y agoThere is even a name for that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity
- qez 5y agoHe didn't misrepresent or disagree with the author. He added extra commentary on something the author brought up.
- ezekiel68 5y agoThe lack of context reltated to what the author wrote is a sin of omission -- because anyone reading a top-level comment that begins with a quote (like this) is, to a first approximation, going to imagine the commenter is responding to the position of the author.
- eyelidlessness 5y agoI think that’s a good reason to read the linked article before drawing conclusions about its contents from discussion threads. Having read the article first, I understood immediately that the comment was not misrepresenting anything from the article, and that their commentary bolsters the point made there. And you don’t necessarily have to read the article before comments. I often don’t! But when I encounter something in comments which seems incongruous with what I’d expect or hope to find in the article, that’s a good prompt to go ahead and read it to gain context.
- heavyset_go 5y agoA sin or lie by omission requires intent, and the OP stated their intent was not to misrepresent the author.
- jussij 5y agoThat is not how quotation marks are designed to work. The words offered up as a quote are meant to represent the views of the person being quoted. In this instance that is clearly not the case. This is a perfect example of how quotes can be used to misrepresented a view.
- Vinnl 5y agoTo be fair, they used `>` to quote the article, and then included the article's `"` to indicate that the article itself quoted someone else.
- lazyasciiart 5y agoIt's easy to write something with an assumed context that is easily misinterpreted by readers without that context. I think it's unreasonable to interpret that as 'misrepresenting' something unless you can show that the writer knew their audience wouldn't have that context.